Can NG explain the reasoning behind Hilltop?

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I am an endgamer and am afflicted with the daily grind of playing NML. NG gave us UC2 which is presented as a try to appease everyone. I do not want to be in their shoes because “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.” BUT what the hell was NG thinking of when they went overboard on Hilltop.
I ask @Teeceezy and @Kaz to explain the reasoning behind making Hilltop so much more difficult than the other maps.
I do not expect an answer, much less an honest one. The way I see it, IMHO, the development staff at NG had proposed UC2 (minus the Hilltop nightmare) as a way of appeasing a majority of players before the bean counters stepped in and balked at the idea of losing revenue, ingame analytics show that reducing the grind would reduce the purchase of gas boosters and gold bundles. Analytics also show that having one map out of wack with the others cause dumbass players (me included) to consume gold irrationally in order to complete that map in the hope that we will complete the other five "easily" thus earning the bonus.
I appreciate when I am treated with respect, I do not like being treated as a source of revenue...
8900rpm
aka Sly, member of Legacy Eh, part of the Eh Family
I ask @Teeceezy and @Kaz to explain the reasoning behind making Hilltop so much more difficult than the other maps.
I do not expect an answer, much less an honest one. The way I see it, IMHO, the development staff at NG had proposed UC2 (minus the Hilltop nightmare) as a way of appeasing a majority of players before the bean counters stepped in and balked at the idea of losing revenue, ingame analytics show that reducing the grind would reduce the purchase of gas boosters and gold bundles. Analytics also show that having one map out of wack with the others cause dumbass players (me included) to consume gold irrationally in order to complete that map in the hope that we will complete the other five "easily" thus earning the bonus.
I appreciate when I am treated with respect, I do not like being treated as a source of revenue...
8900rpm
aka Sly, member of Legacy Eh, part of the Eh Family
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@Shteevie posted in another thread, but basically something got fucked up and it wasn’t intentionalProud member of Mavericks OG, a top 3 global GW and challenge guild.
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I agree that Hilltop sucks though. Reminds me of an Animal Planet clip where a pack of lions all pounced on a bison and totally fucked it up. Except replace lions with fatties and bison with my survivors.Proud member of Mavericks OG, a top 3 global GW and challenge guild.
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Much more satisfying when three to four fatties kissing my survivors
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Hilltop all wrong and out of kilter. Need to get the balance so there’s something to do on the challenge in the weekend. Most of my guild have already done what they can and are really disgruntled.
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Same problem here - I’m at 500 stars less than usual during this “Ultimate Challenge”. 3-starring everything else, but completely dead at the Hilltop mission. WTF
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Nice 2 use dfencive stance it works well with abraham as a shield & 2 hunters behind him
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Sometimes blindly going as far as you can right or left will give you some breathing room. Check which is clear by dragging your survivor and see if path goes red or stays white.
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Pretty much any strategy depends on luck of the initial spawn. I take Abe and two hunters or Dwight and two hunters. If all the nasties spawn in a bunch at the top of the map, you can sometimes plug them fast enough to kill them before they get to you.
If that's not your spawn, then the other good possibility is to run left or right. But that's only if that direction is clear! You can check by seeing how far your leader can move to the left, and whether the red warning for running past a walker shows up. Same with your third survivor, checking movement to the right. If either direction seems clear, run the closest survivor one action point in that direction. if you confirm it's clear, then get all your guys to safety in that direction, setting up for overwatch only if it's safe. Then corner yourself and hope you can take out all the googlies (thanks, Stampy) before they get to you.
Most the time your initial spawn will have you totally surrounded, or a spawn that looks favorable will prove unfavorable once you round a corner with a survivor. Really there's no good strategy to this map, I think. It's just luck of the initial position.Bad Pig
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Hilltop is ridiculous & a joke
So if it wasn't intentional then why no official NG comms?
Why hasn't it been fixed?Ranked #1 in Australia for Weekly ChallengesRanked in the Top 30 Globally for Weekly ChallengeTWD NML Guild Council MemberRecruiter & Legacy Eh Leader a Top 5 Global GuildFormer Leader of Vault112 Top 20 Global Guild & it's 4 Guilds (Vault112, Vault112B, Vault112C & Vault112D) is now a part of the Eh familyRise Up & Join the EH Family [email protected] -
As for comms: NG Has been quite active on the forum this week.
Restarting a challenge on hundreds of thousands of players while it's live... yeah, that's not going to go over well either I'm guessing. If it's possible at all. -
Funny, i havent seen any explaination or acknowledgment about how and why they did this. You should change your title from moderator to minion. Vast majority of comments on hilltop are negatve, but you think a fix would make people more butthurt than the original thumb in the eye. Brilliant.MadPuppy said:As for comms: NG Has been quite active on the forum this week.
Restarting a challenge on hundreds of thousands of players while it's live... yeah, that's not going to go over well either I'm guessing. If it's possible at all. -
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@dlb
Just because you haven't read it doesn't mean it's not there.
A lot of effort is and will be put into the challenge. Feedback here and elsewhere is valued.
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Yes, here is the link: https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/294782/#Comment_294782MadPuppy said:@dlb
Just because you haven't read it doesn't mean it's not there.
A lot of effort is and will be put into the challenge. Feedback here and elsewhere is valued.
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Thanks! Linking is hell when mobile.
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Well, gee wilikers, you got me there. A link to a lame comment that basically admits they were too stupid to get it was all this idiocy needed. I wish my mind was simple enough to swallow that horse pucky.
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Can somebody open an offtopic post where NG can explain the seasoning behind hilltop?-----------------
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Because hilltop put a very early stop to my playing the challenge and with boredom setting in, I actually tried NG’s other game “compass point west” out of curiosity and must say enjoyed it.
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@madpuppy to get the the Superbowl sunday shift. I'm sure your xp at NML. Is minimal. One apology. Would be nice! 2 words. We're Sorry! Never heard it! Explain away all your great thoughts. Reality is in the mind of the beholder. 95% think this was a total F Up. I don't care about 5% of whales. Japan is killing them all slowly. Whale watchers. Lol. Lighten the mood after my rant
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