THE PRIZES - Are they Achievable?

ATLAS-Z

Ok my average hardcore free-ish-pay-a-little-to-play guild full of endgamers finished the War (weekend) with 28,000G, which I thought was respectable for the weekend.

Then I saw that Chainsaw unlocks with 260,000G...

So we'd need 9 more weekends (wars) of this to unlock it, but it sounds like @Kaz that it ends, AND RESETS on January 28th??? That's only 3 more wars, not even close.

Sooooooo, am I getting this right? Should I tell my guys, sorry, no chainsaw for you?

It's like the top shelf prizes
at Chuck-E-Cheese... 4,000,000 tickets for Voltron defender of the universe.

...dream of it, but never actually get it?

ATLAS-Z

It's worse actually... It's like you were a fool and started saving tickets for that gold glory, but then your little sister stole your tickets and bought a stuffed unicorn...

ATLAS-Z

I don't mind talking to myself, I find myself to be excellent company ;-)

But really, top 3 guilds achieved +60,000G, in one weekend (War). So with three more wars in this season, maybe... MAYBE those couple top could can reach that sexy chainsaw.

But no one else. And then all G set back to zero? Unlock everything all over again?

ATLAS-Z

Our international guild managed to scrape together enough folks in one place for 6 total battle sessions. We won 4 & lost 2.
(The 28,000G)

It was loads of fun, but once the honeymoon wears off and we realize we spent 6 hours (plus double that organizing) of our weekend, playing a hefty number of missions, only for a reward of the standard XP and a couple Abe tokens...

Fun factor is great, but not enough all by itself to motivate most for very long.

psychwolf

No one is arguing with you! It's not worth it.

ATLAS-Z

> @psychwolf said:
> No one is arguing with you! It's not worth it.

I know, but I gotta share my thoughts. Put your sandbags away, the flood is over. Lol. (Maybe)

rchap

Our Guild made it to Silver Tier and 50,000, and I noticed that the multiplier bonus for winning battles increases as your tier goes up. So, it looks possible that you can get the Chainsaw, but you won't be able to coast for it. Alot of points will be made that last weekend when everyone is at higher tiers with bigger multiplier bonuses. This makes sense as you want the highest stakes that last weekend.

Of course, I could be way off because I'm only going by what we observed this weekend in play. I've never actually read the rules on this.

Camel56

The prizes listed unlock once you reach a certain level of Victory Points. But once you do, is there any way to see how many tokens you have to spend, or are all those unlocked prizes yours to keep if you want them? I have already cashed in the tokens for GW gas, but don't know how many tokens I have left!

WellyLuga

I understand there are multipliers which go up as you work your way through the tiers, so the higher your tier is the more points you should start to earn as you go along. It's difficult to judge based on one war but I agree, the top tiers just seem absolutely unachievable. Especially considering how stingy NG is with the gas you earn for free and how greedy they have been with what's in the shop.

rchap

> @Camel56 said:
> The prizes listed unlock once you reach a certain level of Victory Points. But once you do, is there any way to see how many tokens you have to spend, or are all those unlocked prizes yours to keep if you want them? I have already cashed in the tokens for GW gas, but don't know how many tokens I have left!

You can see your rewards points in the Guild Wars Shop. See screenshot below.

ATLAS-Z

@rchap do you know what the multipliers are?

rchap

> @ATLAS-Z said:
> @rchap do you know what the multipliers are?

I recall it was 1.3 initially on Bronze III, and then on Silver III it was 1.8 I believe. Wouldn't make sense to have it random, but I guess it could be tied to how many battles you've done or won? Just seemed to make the most sense to have it tied to your tier, but folks from NG should confirm this.

Jaden

I don't think we can reach any of the higher tiers. Made about the 28k of vp I think, lost 5 of our 8 battles since we were almost always matched to much stronger teams.

I don't see us unlocking Daryl or the chainsaw.

But maybe we need to find a group and rotate people in and out to get those crazy high numbers... Guess that will be a thing...

avelardez

@ATLAS-Z

Ok, DoomSlayer from DoomSquadElite here. Was reviewing some numbers. The Master tier of rewards unlocks at 475,000 VPs. That’s an avg of 118,750 VPs per guild each War (19,791 per battle based off 6 battles, but we had 10 battles ten wins anyone with the max battles we can do please post) since we have 4 upcoming Wars. So we all behind the power curve. Our guild was number #2 in the First GW with a final VP score or 64,676 so we came up 54k short to be on path to unlock the Master Level rewards.

There are 10 maps with 18 total missions in each. That’s 180 missions. That’s a gas value of 180-GWG. So each member needs 18GWG to complete the entire battle if no repeats or defeats. We get 3 keys a day for two days. 6 total battle keys with a gas value of 108 per player for the entire War. In the USA battle starts Saturday at 0500 and ends on Sunday at 2000. That’s 38 battles to organize with 7-10 players to play during the War. Any one got different info please post.

Artminius

Optimization math!
So there's a muddy mix:
1. There's an optimization of team size: 7 doesn't divide evenly into 20, so it seems that Doom is right. Two, 10-member teams do a total of 24 battles each war.
2. If a team isn't clearing the whole map (buying gas like oil barons) then the team must only go after sections that reward max vp (ignoring those that award guild shop currency plus vp).
3. Unknown multipliers for wins only affect the optimization when you assume all wins. Many guilds can do so... But every loss moves the unlock goal that much further away.

So someone needs to run the 'perfect' math: everything goes as planned, full 24 battles, 0 losses, all sectors cleared, 4 wars. That result probably should be, like, 250% of the final reward unlock goal. Or more.

If someone with stat skills can work out that optimization for average guild, then apply at NG! ;-)

rchap

I posted on another topic, but there are 380 potential missions in each battle.

I also noticed that Victory Points varied each battle. Some maps had areas with 370 Victory points for clearing, and some battles did not (max 190). No idea why.