Lack of GW gas cmon man

romeo

2 days on guild war
Can play only saturday
No gas sunday
Guildmates stop playing
Sad new cool feature

tabernac

I had 5 GW gas left over from last GW. I collected all of the GW gas from one play through of the Distance, all of the gas available from the Challenge, and purchased the GW gas that was available in the Guild Shop for Reward Points.

With that gas I was able to play two battles to full potential, and participate in a third battle in which I could only engage some of the "human" enemies due to lack of gas.

GW is a lot of fun, but for an active player to only be able to participate in two and a half battles out of 6 seems a bit off. The price of GW gas is too expensive for me to justify paying real money for it. I'd be happy if I could play 4 battles to my full potential, but to do so would cost around 15 bucks. That will never happen.

xbamfx

We should tag them so they see it, many people are frustrated with the current gas situation @Kaz. I hope they know about it and act before next season. 120 of our crew have already signed on they WILL NOT participate in next Guild War and no $ toward it period.

crambert_nec

Exactly the same experience for me this weekend @tabernac. Two full battles on Saturday and 1 measly 10 gas battle on Sunday. Ran out of gas the first day. Can't justify paying those prices either. Such a shame.

JackBauer

This thread is just a confirmation for NG that they did everything right. Creating a precious thing that everyone wants and wait for people to buy it at any price. Same like with Apple. Well Done.

romeo

Saturday is all good and enough gas
Comes Sunday i’m just a spectator
Why we have GW for 2 days?
Apparently i have a good self control not to buy the ⛽️. So as my guildmates.
Need to find solution to this.
Gas is the main concern here.
Guess what? I’m not FTP but I’m just not buying GW gas coz it’s too expensive even with Gold

dlb

See also the tread about not getting 5 gas back after battles. Happened to me every war. This war was better, only ripped me off twice. I've lost 35, 40ish in gas in 3 wars. Spent 700 gold this time, fool that I am.

Metal

NG your losing this battle, losing players for GW at a high rate, we want to play but at your prices, HELLS NO, maybe 100 Gold for 25 gas, that sounds reasonable, or 2.99 for 25 gas, you just can’t throw the price gouging you did this early in a game, leaves a bad taste....Change it or your mode just fails

carlos1981

It's spectator Sunday for Sure.. I Enjoyed my first battle, at 35 gas, and we played Merle. We took the call to stop early to conserve gas after the win - Is that what NG Wanted us to do on this mode?!

Battle 2 was good, although my 20 gas was gone in 25\30 mins.

Sunday with 5 gas is no fun. I can help out at 5 battle, so it's either play and wait, or wait till everyone's empty, and jump in to help at the last 10\15 mins.

At this rate it's not "Who can play and when" for GW it's "Who can AFFORD to play this weekend"

Base on what I'd like to use per war, I'd have to Pay £72 a month - This is absolute proof that it's a paid game mode at the moment, which really has to change. It cuts out the F2P for sure.

Not a chance i spend that on a game - especially for 4 days of still limited play (Ideally, I'd want more gas than that. That £72 is based off a estimated 25 gas a battle, which is 30 mins for me).

GW Gas issues as is will break this mode

xbamfx

I have decided to no longer participate in guild wars. NG prove to me and many others why I should continue to support this game financially. If I’m Alone or an Army at my back I will not change my stance unless the gas economy is fair market value. Peace.

nadecir

Guild war gas bundles are more expensive than 1 share of NextGames stock. That's about all you need to know about the GW gas economy.

This company really needs the cash in the short term, and it reflects directly with the GW gas gouging. By the way, layoffs seem to be coming at NG. This is from their Jan 10 press release:

"In connection with the program and in accordance with the Finnish law, Next
Games plans to initiate consultation proceedings covering the company’s
operations and personnel in its entirety. The company estimates that the
proceedings may result in the reduction of personnel or in significant changes
in job descriptions and organizational setup. The proceedings will commence
latest on 17 January 2019 and are estimated to continue for at least six
weeks, unless concluded earlier. As of 31 December 2018, Next Games has 143
employees."

https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2019-01-10/next-games-oyj-next-games-streamlines-operations-reviews-cost-structure-to-support-future-growth

Firekid

Need a sad reaction to that post

Jenng

I can understand the frustration of the super motivated amongst us that have to play at all times. I’m thinking this isn’t the purpose of this mode, I could be wrong, but a maximum of 10 players in a guild of 20 with 3 keys each per day. It would only make sense that the use of all 6 keys in a weekend wouldn’t be feasible. I too want more options to earn the GW’s gas but I’m beginning to realize how you use your gas and keys is part of the strategy. It’s gonna be vital to find a guild that has the fire to play. This is a team sport. One person even with a bunch of gas earned or paid for cannot “win” this mode.



Side note: I personally will not give up. Give me war or give me death ( as in retirement)

kookaburra

Just a thought, what about a flat rate like $5 for 24 hours GW gas? Would that draw more players in to pay. Smaller amount but many more players equals bigger profit for them with less sting for us. Just a thought...

Metal

Yes it would NG needs to realize that these high prices very few will buy. If you have a great price a lot more will buy and you make more money. 9.99 for 25 is crazy, change it to like 3.00 I would definitely buy more. Not at 9.99 get the point, lower prices bigger sales

crambert_nec

You would think that, but based on a different conversation with NG on a different social media platform today, looks like nothing will be changing regarding GW gas for the foreseeable future. They are perfectly happy with how many people are actually paying for gas.

Don't buy GW gas. Not with money. Not with gold. Full stop. Convince your guilds. This shit is bogus and they gotta realize that.

xbamfx

$2 can play all day
$10 can play 30 min

Nah F that you can keep Gold Wars
* too bad completely ruined a fun game mode $20 to compete per battle? Ludacris!

xyf80

NG is really wrong on this one, they should make the GW more tactical other than no brainier race depend more on gas, right? I am OK to accept more points to unlock rewards but lower cost to gas, that way NG benefit as well, why? more people will stick to it, when they stick to it, you guys can sell more weapon, XP, tomato, smart? YES! @Kaz

Killdozer187_

Writing was on the wall and you didn't read it.

*shrugs

Jenng

I’m not boycotting the best thing to happen to the game. I’m usually pitchfork ready but not this one. Nope. I may not but may purchase gas.......... to each their own. I spend on what’s valuable to me.

SgtSalami

The red gas economy next games set up is a joke...I was just starting to spend some money on this game again...I will continue to play gw, but at a more reduced enthusiasm and focus, and I will not buy any gas for it with cash or gold when next games is setting up such a rapacious policy for the sale of red gas. They set up a nice game mod/mini game to re-energize the game and then proceed to piss off the gamer base. Ridiculous.

dlb

xyf80 said:

NG is really wrong on this one, they should make the GW more tactical other than no brainier race depend more on gas, right? I am OK to accept more points to unlock rewards but lower cost to gas, that way NG benefit as well, why? more people will stick to it, when they stick to it, you guys can sell more weapon, XP, tomato, smart? YES! @Kaz

Price elasticity of demand. Friggin econ 101 learned in marketing 101.

Metal

Don’t know who there marketing agent is but they need to go back to school, because when something is that broke you usually fix it for the community before it goes away like it’s starting to now. There’s whole guilds now that say no one is buying or participating anymore till fixed, hooray for them, I’m with ya

nadecir

> @crambert_nec said:
> You would think that, but based on a different conversation with NG on a different social media platform today looks like nothing will be changing regarding GW gas for the foreseeable future.
>
NG exemplifies the definition of insanity - "trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

This company can't continue to expect that pricing in-app purchases at the high end of what the market will bear will drive enough revenue to be successful in the long run. It might look good to the spreadsheet jockeys in the short run, but once a novelty like guild wars wears off, players will stop buying, and then players will leave the game.

The company could learn a lot of things from the Fortnite model. Fortnite makes more in a matter of days than NG's entire market cap (what NG is worth in its completely).

NG owns rights to some of the best intellectual property in the game world, yet the company has been mismanaged so badly that it needs sizable layoffs to stay in business. Employees at NG will lose their jobs because of bad decisions, and that's a shame.

Try something different NG. Your business ideas are dated, and it's obvious your ideas you have tried previously are not working.

Deadheads

Really hoping NG has been silent because they're waiting for the season to end before making changes. Gas is an issue but my biggest complaint is schedule, there's just WAY too much on Saturdays (challenge/distance/GW)

Metal

Yes poor management putting everything on one day, nobody wants to feel overwhelmed, there has to be a leader somewhere in the office to see these things. A ton of cheaper sales beats a few high sales. How can management not see this, so easy to make money if they would open there eyes

Firekid

@jeeng I get what you're saying and agree that is what NG envisioned with this game mode, working together to do the best you can with limited resources. I think that part of it works, the problem is they have advertised prizes in the guild shop which will be completely out of reach no matter how well you work as a team and what strategies you use due to that limited resources (gas) part of it. Even a guild full of whales will miss out on the master tier and my guess is only the top 20-30 guilds will get the chainsaw. And i imagine a lot of those guilds will have a couple of whales in each. I think more people would enjoy and be positive about the game mode with one simple tweak. Allow guildwar gas to be collected in both the off week and the war week. It still won't be enough to play the full 50 mins for all 6 keys but will allow you to contribute in all 6 if rationed correctly.

Killdozer187_

> @Firekid said:
> @jeeng I get what you're saying and agree that is what NG envisioned with this game mode, working together to do the best you can with limited resources. I think that part of it works, the problem is they have advertised prizes in the guild shop which will be completely out of reach no matter how well you work as a team and what strategies you use due to that limited resources (gas) part of it. Even a guild full of whales will miss out on the master tier and my guess is only the top 20-30 guilds will get the chainsaw. And i imagine a lot of those guilds will have a couple of whales in each. I think more people would enjoy and be positive about the game mode with one simple tweak. Allow guildwar gas to be collected in both the off week and the war week. It still won't be enough to play the full 50 mins for all 6 keys but will allow you to contribute in all 6 if rationed correctly.

Whale Wars has been cancelled