Reaching Higher Challenge Levels

Dbl_Edge_DEP

I wonder if someone can guide me in the right direction.
My average toon level is 20, I have unlocked every hero also.
Highest is 1 pink star.
I have managed to reached difficulty 29 /1000+ stars in the past.

Typically I play with a mix of melee and gunners with a leaning towards melee, SR and 2 bruisers/ Michonne, SR and RGG perhaps / Sasha, bruiser, bruiser / Sasha, Assault, Bruiser etc.

I am at a loss, as I can not comfortably break past difficulty 27, what would be ideal at this differential (+7 level difference), for example hero and toon team combos, traits to look out for, preferred weapons etc.

Troublemaker

There isn't a recipe. Every challenge/map set requires a certain approach. There's also the weekly bonus.

Plus badges and gear.

Try to join a respected and top competitive guild family. There will be many players helping you and sharing constantly, day after day.

Mavericks is the best, but there are many others that are great. Just check the leaderboards.

Jenng

+7 is damn good to me! I think you’re on the right track. Archives is the one giving me hell this time and I’ve been trying every variation, holding my breath and just trying not to f up. 🤷‍♀️

I’ve done bruiser, bruiser( hockey stick), shooter

Assault, assault ( with pickles), shooter

Warrior(ax), scout, bruiser

scout( extra pokey stick thingy ), scout, bruiser

And scout, bruiser, ass

It’s luck and patience with a side of mediocre skills.

Dbl_Edge_DEP

@Troublemaker I'm sensing team bias here! 🤣 I hear what you're saying, but some people are using near enough the same team and are breezing by with no issue.

@Jenng thank you, I try. Half the premium weapons you mentioned, I don't have. I've got the spear (spring campaign) and spear gun (epic).

I know you use Rufus, can you recommend him to get further in later stages in the challenge with his health boost in mind and maybe 2 bruisers?

WellyLuga

More pink stars would help, 8* survivors is probably the best time to stop as the pay off compared to the cost isn't worth it after that.

For your DR classes, if you can load them with dodge/hazard that will help. Each attack at +5 does 250% damage, dodge reduces this to normal damage, hazard reduces it further.

Razor is obviously extremely important for your melee classes so if you aren't using that then you'll be struggling.

The more damage and health, the better you will do. Ideally you want 2 max DR guys and a high damage dealing survivor in every mission.

After that it depends on the challenge set, watch videos from various players and you'll get a general idea of the teams they use and how they navigate the maps

Jenng

I do love me some Rufus. I recommend him for all levels and all maps lol 😂 ( ok maybe not always, but I’m using him at rsl 30 for all the maps of this challenge. ) 2 bruisers I cannot do. I have 1, 8 star bruiser ( OG traits) and only 1 jacket upgraded for her so she’s my 1 and only bruiser I use but if you have 2 that are semi well equipped.......... I’d try it.

Dbl_Edge_DEP

@WellyLuga I will start upping my best toons ASAP. Hadn't put effort in to it beforehand as I didn't see tangible rewards, I do see It now however. I make you right on your advice and would never leave home without razor!

@Jenng the Rufus tactic worked as it goes. His health boost was enough to get me thru with a 3 star on +8 level diff. I used to not have much love for him before, but my view has improved somewhat lol. Bruisers are my favourite class besides scouts and shooters. I need to know how you have got so far without them!

Gothgul

> @WellyLuga said:

Each attack at +5 does 250% damage, dodge reduces this to normal damage, hazard reduces it further.

I've not heard that mechanic with dodge before, in fact I thought it was basically useless at >+5 as it rarely triggers. Do you have more info on this?

WellyLuga

@Gothgul Here is a link to the wordpress site on combat mechanics. Crit damage is listed as 150% but I'm fairly certain that's for when your survivors attack walkers with normal attacks. For walkers vs survivors I'm pretty confident in saying it's 250%. https://twdnomansland.wordpress.com/combat-mechanics/

At RSL40 a critical hit does about 7-8k damage with 80% damage reduction but when dodge triggers it does around 2.5-3k. Basically any time a walker critical hits you, there is a small chance for dodge to trigger and this will turn it into a normal hit. It won't say dodge above your head, instead it won't say critical hit and the damage will be noticably less than usual.

It might be that it is triggering but you don't notice. Or if you just have 15% dodge then it's not going to trigger often. What you want to try to do is get gold dodge on armour, lucky on the weapon and both on your survivor to really boost it's chances.

WellyLuga

For instance, take Magnolia here. Dodge on survivor is 17%, armour is 15% so 32% chance. It is then boosted by two lots of lucky (22% + 15%) which increases the chances to about 43%. Hope that helps!

Grendel

The thing that helped me most at L20 was that I focused on a small number of survivors and put all my best badges on them. I normally put all class tokens into 1 survivor from each class to gain more stars more quickly. I also badged / equipped to extremes. Either all defense or all offense.

I think generally most would agree that for challenge you want 2 mega-defensive bruisers and a mega-offensive scout. I usually use Morgan, RG Glenn, and Scout Rick.

Play tons of outpost, buy class tokens, and build an 8* bruiser.

Grendel

I went from L20 to L26 fairly quickly using a similar strategy. I only leveled up a small group of survivors at each level. I only messed with equipment every 3 levels. So at L23 I upgraded new equip and used it until L26.

When I hit L26, I had tons of survivors at L17-L20 that I later upgraded gradually.

By minimizing Xp spending, I was able to focus on scavenging for supplies and upgrading buildings.

It is a grind, but I was very frustrated with outgrowing equipment constantly. Once you max out, everything is different; it was worth all the boring play for a couple of months to get there.

Dbl_Edge_DEP

That's interesting and useful to know. I'm considering doing something similar myself, the only place I struggle at is weapons becoming outclassed, which means your attack power suffers. Luckily I have some good damage badges to make up for it.

I'm gonna try to cut down the amount of toons I use and focus on building the best ones up.

xiaofei66

@Dbl_Edge_DEP team bias? Untruths. Mavs is best if you are leader and enjoy USING other guildmates for your personal benefit. You Re doing well just keep up the good work

Dbl_Edge_DEP

@xiaofei66 I'm not sure I understand the context of your comment. I mentioned team bias as a joke on someone else's comment a while back, but no mention of it here. Thank you also. I just try to keep pushing daily.