Is Sheriff Rick now the best hero in the game???

DiElEl

Sorry Sasha...
Thoughts???
(see his inspiration trait)

Drunken

No, no range is taking down a 200k health walker in a single attack. You would need pierce and critical to active 3x to take down one high end walker. 

His trait doesn’t appear to be stacking with other traits like prowl, therefore it’s not as advantageous. For low to mid gamers it’s a nice boost to end gamers at MM50 I don’t see much use. 

WellyLuga

I think you could make the argument that he is the best hero shooter in the game, but overall the class is much weaker than the others that he can't be considered the best overall. At the moment it's a toss up between Aaron and Hilltop Maggie but I think Rick has the better damage potential and Hilltop Maggie is limited to special walkers.

Shooters don't have the damage potential that scouts have and the gap between piercing and razor is so large that heroes like Sasha, HDaryl or SRick will generally be a better choice for leader.

JayZ

100% agreed with @Drunken. There is basically no place for Shooters at MM50 except for the occasional fire starter. Shooters (even precharged) trail off in the mid-40s.

Drunken

I’ll agree with @WellyLuga he might be best shooter once invested heavily. But 3 rerolls needed and my Maggie is almost 10* so he got a while 

ATLAS-Z

@JayZ @Drunken I'm inclined to agree. I know I don't go up to MM50 often, but if I did, I doubt The Sheriff would help me get there.

Do you guys think there's any "small" tweaks that might make him a viable choice?

I'm starting to look at everything new in this game as initially "beta" since they don't do beta testing groups anymore.

So let's provide feedback for @Fluxxx

I agree with @WellyLuga that shooter class needs a rework, but beyond that, what would make you use Sheriff Rick?

Drunken

@ATLAS-Z I mean you need charges at 50. That’s why you see so much Sasha at 50 with control burn. 

I could see Rick being useful on a map like BBQ, but it appears his LT don’t stack with say Prowl. Even if it did would still need something like charged scouts to work on that map. 

Only way I can ever see a shooter being useful at end game is if they had a leader trait similar to Sasha, but shooters hit 1 target, Sasha hits many and gets charged. I just don’t see how class can be useful unless they do as much if not more damage than a scout. 

I mean real life I stab you chances are you living i shoot you chances are you are dying. I always thought shooters didn’t do enough. 

tjhookr

on bbq when you reach the 5th kill usually any team is good to finish
maybe nightly visitors, you charge up srick with the initial walkers and get the big boost to kill the fatty, and with the new bow the threat reduction can be done by rick
probably still not better than Daryl in the team though ...

WellyLuga

Yeah I think at the very least they should have the same damage profile as a scout. Both base damage and charge damage, they are basically the same anyway. Both single target (weapon dependent), high damage/low health. The trade off would be that scouts have to get close up but don't create threat and shooters can attack from distance but make noise. 

I'm not sure how useful Shane will be as a hero but he might make shooters more viable. In any case I think if shooters could match what a scout can do damage wise I might be inclined to use Alpha a little more. With her at 7* her non-body shot chances are higher than razor when combined with piercing. The main problem is you lack stopping power.

Paste

I think he will stay on the bench for me since I would have to use radios to level him. Aaron is easy to level without making any calls from Distance. Hilltop Maggie is easy to level with the tokens from alt hero calls if you don't get any of the better heroes.

xbamfx

Does his LT even work properly? I’m hearing reports that it isn’t.....

Carl_Tyreese999

JayZ said:

100% agreed with @Drunken. There is basically no place for Shooters at MM50 except for the occasional fire starter. Shooters (even precharged) trail off in the mid-40s.

Hey @JayZ while were on the subject, what do you think of Pizza Guy Glenn? If you think he's the best out of the new heroes and worth the time, what trait rerolls and weapons are you thinking? Daryl's knife or spear, and tank traits or glass cannon traits?

[Deleted User]

Sheriff Rick from first episode of new origins season mission definitely the best hero in game, unlim shooting rulez (we all know that bugs rules, don't sheriff rick) 

Billdinger

What in the world did I just witness? Shooter Rick shot like 5 straight times! I used Stabby Rick in the first mission where you can choose your players, and he was stabbing non-stop too! What gives? I like it though! It will break the game!

WellyLuga

I think it is to make the mission play out in the same frantic way that the episode did. Imagine running from a horde of walkers but only moving a few steps, shooting one walker and then standing still a second whilst they moved closer?

I played it with Hunter Maggie and she was able to do the exact same thing. The episode played out really nicely. It would make shooters more viable though if they could do that all the time!

BttlOpener

Bunch of tattle tails running to the forums to tell the teacher (NG). 

Yeah, appears that Rick's new trait is transferring to the leader in the trial mission.  Fun indeed.  

ATLAS-Z

Yeah if my shooters had five shots per turn then they might start to be more useful.

ShadowWalker

Heck, I'll settle for 1 extra attack per turn. The charge attack can be a silent 3rd attack. Hardly game breaking I would say.

LoneWanderer360

Is it a bug with the mission or the character? It would sure make hard distance easier... 🤣

Aussom_Possum

Working like gangbusters in the Season mission but every other mission type I've yet to see it work.  You can say RNG all day but I'm pretty sure it's broke.

[Deleted User]

if you take on this mission two range hero and after 4 kills by leader then 1 kill by second hero, leader has an unlimited hits in the same turn
add video in a few minutes

zbot

Can confirm that it's intended in the Season mission.

[Deleted User]

if something looks like a bug, smells like a bug and quacks like a bug, then it is most likely a bug

Aussom_Possum

@zbot is it intended to not work in non-season missions?  I've yet to see it work, and after like 30 missions i won't believe RNG doesn't favor me

[Deleted User]

https://youtu.be/Bh4KGpWPC1c

zbot

@Aussom_Possum intended to work only in the season mission.

Jenng

Well, that was fun while it lasted. 

Aussom_Possum

Can someone clear this up for me.  The new Shooter Rick LT is not supposed to work during normal gameplay. 

Aussom_Possum

So, what's the point.   I invested  in some Shooter Rick tokens for nothing?  Bug?  Working as intended?  

[Deleted User]

Rick shooter LT don't take part in this "intended to work only in the season mission" bug
any hero if him leader in this mission will same unlim hits against zombie

[Deleted User]

Aussom_Possum said:

So, what's the point.   I invested  in some Shooter Rick tokens for nothing?  Bug?  Working as intended?  

no need to invest in Rick shooter token if you use flat damage badges and if you use % damage badges no need to invest too