Negan trait didn't work

IronUncle

Negan is supposed to mark an enemy. The marked enemy is not supposed to inflict status effects.  Yet, a tank (fatty) was marked and then stunned Negan.  Then of course, I lost my last stand fairly quickly.  You can see in the pic that the enemy was clearly marked.  And Negan was stunned.

Burmeliinis

it was probably marked after doing its attack, this easily gets confusing if you are playing with 2x speed (as everyone does) as the animations are often in the wrong order

IronUncle

Well, it happened to me again in the challenge.  I've been trying to watch for it very carfully.

IronUncle

When I mentioned it to the in game "help" they said sorry and gave me 1 extra ticket to hell.  Whoopie!

Lexia

I'm sorry to hear about this @IronUncle, but kindly also understand that situations that don't happen to many and are difficult to reproduce are close to impossible to investigate or fix. When there is nothing else to fall on but one report, support requests for as many details as possible from the player to try to help the investigation. That unfortunately still doesn't mean we will be able to find and fix everything, but we of course aim to do so. In the mean time we want to make sure possible losses due to something like this is compensated accordingly.

For your above issue, unfortunately there hasn't been any other reports and nothing out of the ordinary found from the details you shared. 

Could you start with updating your game to the most resent version, and would you also be able to share what weapon you are using on Negan in both situations? Are you able to share more on steps and actions taking place before the walker attacked and stunned Negan?

IronUncle

Hi @Lexia -

My intent is really just to inform you rather than complain and be compensated. I really just want the game to be as bug free as possible. I'm certain you agree.  I'm using the Wide Margin weapon and will attach a screenshot.  This bug occurred several times.  In regard to more details, I don't play at 2X speed like @Burmeliinis suggested.  Just plain 1 speed!  The other thing is that the bug has happened both with Negan in lead position where he marks 3 enemies and also when he is the "helper" and marks only 1 enemy.  The bug also happens before I make an attack.  So the Tank is marked and attacks Negan.  Then I only have 2 survivors remaining during my Turn.

ghost_pepper

Is something causing status effects to stop working or stop working early? I had a spike come at me when it was supposed to be feeding. It skipped it's several course meal. 

Burmeliinis

@IronUncle if this issue occurs to you regularly you really should take video and share it, without that it’s impossible to say if it’s really a bug or just some kind of misunderstanding or similar.

IronUncle

I'm not trying to be difficult but its pretty simple.  Negan isn't supposed to be stunned.  Once he is stunned, I suppose I can start recording but then it will be too late to be useful unless he is stunned a second time.

IronUncle

After the current GW, I will try to get him stunned for fun.

Virtus

This happened to me yesterday as well. A clearly marked Tank stunned Negan after I moved him in position to take the hit. I did that because I knew he wouldn't be stunned due to his LT. Well, imagine my surprise when he got stunned by the marked tank. Screenshot below:


I already submitted a ticket in the game for this issue.

Lexia

@Virtus thank you for sharing.

We were notified about the ticket and will continue looking into this with the additional information

Virtus

@Lexia

I have mentioned Negan's bugged LT before and submitted support tickets, but since I documented this issue we've had updates and this is still not fixed. How about prioritizing it ahead of Ezekiel?

As a refresher on the bug, while I was playing the Distance today a marked tank stunned Negan multiple times. This should not be possible according to his LT. He was equipped with standard armor and Morgan's staff, if that matters. I don't play Negan except in Distance mode, so maybe it only happens on that game mode. He's normally in my Outpost, which makes me worry that this bug happens there too.

Screenshot:

zbot

@Virtus take a video, the marking happens at the beginning of the turn so there are instances where you get stunned by a tank in the previous turn then the tank gets marked at the beginning of the turn.  I was using Negan for the last challenge and those were the only times Negan's LT didn't work.

ATLAS-Z

Negan = biggest hero swing and miss? 

Virtus

I don't normally video my Distance missions, so I don't have one. But, the screen shot clearly shows that the tank that did the stunning was the marked tank.  No one on my team has moved, nor did the walker, and the two that are shown were the only one's on the map. 

It doesn't seem too much to ask NG to fix this bug, which has been documented by me and others, including with video for months.  At this point, there should exist an abundance of evidence on this bug.  If not, maybe the devs should try playing these Distance maps with Negan to see the bug themselves.  Whatever approach they are taking so far isn't working, because this bug remains.

I think this is a good example of why a lot of people get rightfully frustrated.  Here you have a bug that negatively impacts the player experience and it doesn't get fixed (for months now), but other bugs that help players get fixed right away.

Virtus

Here's the link to the thread where this bug has been documented before, with others providing examples:

https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/447003#Comment_447003

zbot

@Virtus thanks for the other thread, merged the two so there's history.

ghost_pepper

I can confirm Negan also gets stunned by a tank in LS game mode. Seriously. What is this? 

Just change the ingame text to accurately reflect the way the game actually is. Problem solved. Bug "fixed".