Another Hunter Wep with Incendiary?

DyAmond

Srsly? We had the golden rifle with Incendiary already Just before the GAR and then the Campaign Rifle....

I tought we gonna had a Shooter Wep

@Lexia @Fluxxx

ATLAS-Z

Remember what Darryl taught you and bring your fire gun LOL

DyAmond

ATLAS-Z said:

Remember what Darryl taught you and bring your fire gun LOL

What about a FLARE Gun, if you like fire xd

ghost_pepper

(throw up emoji)

Noiserating

Yes, I was also disappointed...

ShadowWalker

Noiserating said:

Yes, I was also disappointed...

As is Guild Wars tradition.

ATLAS-Z

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

ATLAS-Z

@Lexia

PS... I would like a Morningstar with spikes made from Unicorn Horns that interrupts and explodes enemies like a Shane shotgun blast but silently in a cacophony of pink smoke and rainbow sprinkles. Oh and anyone surviving is stunned / rooted and burning. Thanks! 

And then next Guild wars season, something even better please?

FuriousMoldovan

Might be an unpopular opinion, but as I said before on discord - this season's GW shop is much better compared to several previous seasons imo.

DyAmond

FuriousMoldovan said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but as I said before on discord - this season's GW shop is much better compared to several previous seasons imo.

The problem is not the rifle itself, the problem is the bad rotation of items

Hunter > Hunter > Assault > Hunter

Its problematic specially  when the season lasts 1 month and after 4 months no Shooter Wep? 

WellyLuga

ATLAS-Z said:

@Lexia

PS... I would like a Morningstar with spikes made from Unicorn Horns that interrupts and explodes enemies like a Shane shotgun blast but silently in a cacophony of pink smoke and rainbow sprinkles. Oh and anyone surviving is stunned / rooted and burning. Thanks! 

And then next Guild wars season, something even better please?

That might just be enough to finally get melee back up to scratch

ATLAS-Z

@WellyLuga and you'll need your hazard armor when you go smacking those burning sprinkle-shrapnel survivors 

Noiserating

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

I would have prefered a morning star weapon, a decimator or dragon tongue. But I dont say all the shop is bad. Only this rifle

FuriousMoldovan

DyAmond said:

FuriousMoldovan said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but as I said before on discord - this season's GW shop is much better compared to several previous seasons imo.

The problem is not the rifle itself, the problem is the bad rotation of items

Hunter > Hunter > Assault > Hunter

Its problematic specially  when the season lasts 1 month and after 4 months no Shooter Wep? 

We just had literally the best shooter weapon from GW shop - Import 0.57. Has it been over 4 months already?

Also we had plenty of gear for both ranged & melee during previous seasons (lucky armors, CE, harpoon, etc.).

Of course not all of them will be groundbreaking, but many are great (some were best in-class) and/or can be an alternative to p2p gear for f2p players.

Hellnight

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

First, it's not totally free, many spend money on kits and gold to play/win wars. Second, it is about time that the weapon with crippling, fire and silver distance can be obtained in the store, so the game is equal for everyone.
Another point, the armor is worth less and less with the nerf there was. The traits we need can be supplied with some common armor

ghost_pepper

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

As I've said before, I believe the weapons and armor that are more basic, and unlock earlier, and are designed primarily for the more casual players....


...should cost less.

We're never going to use them anyway. Same with the 2nd and 3rd tier heros early in the prize que. We will hardly ever play some of them, if at all. But it can mean a lot to casual players who usually lose at gw and don't have as many reward points to be able to buy those things. It won't upset the balance at all if those prices are reduced. 

WellyLuga

Hellnight said:

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

First, it's not totally free, many spend money on kits and gold to play/win wars. Second, it is about time that the weapon with crippling, fire and silver distance can be obtained in the store, so the game is equal for everyone.
Another point, the armor is worth less and less with the nerf there was. The traits we need can be supplied with some common armor

I'm sorry but on your first point you are wrong, everything in GW is totally free. If you choose to spend money on wars to improve your chances of winning then that is exactly that, your choice. You're doing it for competitive reasons, not because you are forced to pay. A player spending nothing on the game can obtain anything in the shop for free provided they are in a guild active enough to unlock them.

DyAmond

I never said i wanted Overpowered stuff for 0 points idk where did you got that but OK keep playing dumb and thinking every complain about ANYTHING is because "i want a MS with unicorn shit" 

All i said is Rotation of items should be more balanced and instead of repeating the same class should always choose the one it has more time out in this case we had incendiary golden rifle 2 seasons ago, then GAR that makes it. 
Hunter > Assault

With that in mind the best choice for the next season is of course Shooter, not Hunter or Assault again 

Is really that Hard to understand or we keep saying pointless non constructive jokes about Free Overpowered Weapons NOBODY mentioned? 

ATLAS-Z

Hey, I thought it was pretty funny.

@ghost_pepper btw I agree with your points on economy, but would that change make you barf less at the shop? Lol. 

ATLAS-Z

@Hellnight you dogging my armor bro??

That's best (and only) feature of the shop for many folks who already have everything else.

Guild wars shop needs to be attractive to ALL PLAYERS and as it stands, 99.9% of the shop benefits free players WAY more than pay players.

Those of us who spend a little usually have all the good gear already, so we look forward to see what infused treats might be offered that we can't get anywhere else. 

You feel me?

Winston457

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

I can see how the Warrior Armor can be great; charging off of one kill would be very helpful with the Morningstar.  As usual, I thought about it for 10sec and made a judgement based off how hard Hazard w/ Dodge on armor is pushed in the Strategy Guide.

I'm old, my brain always takes some time to come around to new things.

ATLAS-Z

Also apologies to the OP, i am also old and forgot I wasn't in the Wish list thread. Dammit. In fact I was looking for my post yesterday and it wasn't there... Then I found it here and I was like well ssshhhhheeeeeeeeiit.

(psst if OP don't mind, maybe @zbot can just fold this right in to guild shop post lol) 

DyAmond

I really love how the main subject of the post is THE WOODBURY RIFLE and everyone made poor and non constructive arguments based on the Daryls Assault Rifle, Warrior armor and Morning Star (what the hell the MS has to do with this? Nobodys asking for it, at least not me) .... I dont remember mentioning any of these 3 xd

ATLAS-Z

@DyAmond please review my above post dude.

I apologized and explained, 2 in 1!

Again sorry. I got lost. 

ATLAS-Z

REGARDING THE WOODBURY RIFLE 

Is a great weapon for noobs and FTP. 

Apparently it should be a piercing shooter weapon I guess?

I don't buy these anyway but will support. 

ShadowWalker

@ATLAS-Z I was just pointing out it's tradition for someone to complain or be disappointed, not necessarily that I am disappointed.  I am fully aware of the formula for gear in the Guild Shop so at this point I'm not really disappointed, although one of these days it would be nice to look at all the gear and say hey these are all pretty good.

DyAmond

ATLAS-Z said:

REGARDING THE WOODBURY RIFLE 

Is a great weapon for noobs and FTP. 

Apparently it should be a piercing shooter weapon I guess?

I don't buy these anyway but will support. 

Then you review mine xD i never said it was bad or good idc if it has 3 Lucky or Damage, My problem is the unbalanced way they rotated the items doing a

Hunter > Assault > Hunter

Instead of

Hunter > Assault > Shooter

Thats My problem 

ATLAS-Z

Next season. 

A nice shiny Colt Python 

With 

Silver Tactical 
Gold Piercing 
Gold Destructive 
Infused Point Blank

For a nice low 800 RP

maybe if @Lexia approves lol

Hellnight

WellyLuga said:

Hellnight said:

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

First, it's not totally free, many spend money on kits and gold to play/win wars. Second, it is about time that the weapon with crippling, fire and silver distance can be obtained in the store, so the game is equal for everyone.
Another point, the armor is worth less and less with the nerf there was. The traits we need can be supplied with some common armor

I'm sorry but on your first point you are wrong, everything in GW is totally free. If you choose to spend money on wars to improve your chances of winning then that is exactly that, your choice. You're doing it for competitive reasons, not because you are forced to pay. A player spending nothing on the game can obtain anything in the shop for free provided they are in a guild active enough to unlock them.

Can you get a flaming crossbow pistol just by playing? Tell me in what way please.

Also in which game mode can I get an incendiary bazooka.

I don't remember if the cripple bow has been released on the black market (spending gold from campaigns won't let me reach 1000 ever).

All weapons should be available to everyone, the only thing that helps you get higher is gold and gas.

ATLAS-Z

Hellnight said:

WellyLuga said:

Hellnight said:

ATLAS-Z said:

@ShadowWalker
@Noiserating
@ghost_pepper

And everyone hitting those "agree" what is it exactly you're hoping for?

There is one premium (previously cash only weapon) and one beyond amazing better than anything seen before armor.

What is it you want?
4 or 5 of each and brand new innovations every shop?

These are essentially free items after all. 

My efforts here are for productive discussion fyi

First, it's not totally free, many spend money on kits and gold to play/win wars. Second, it is about time that the weapon with crippling, fire and silver distance can be obtained in the store, so the game is equal for everyone.
Another point, the armor is worth less and less with the nerf there was. The traits we need can be supplied with some common armor

I'm sorry but on your first point you are wrong, everything in GW is totally free. If you choose to spend money on wars to improve your chances of winning then that is exactly that, your choice. You're doing it for competitive reasons, not because you are forced to pay. A player spending nothing on the game can obtain anything in the shop for free provided they are in a guild active enough to unlock them.

Can you get a flaming crossbow pistol just by playing? Tell me in what way please.

Also in which game mode can I get an incendiary bazooka.

I don't remember if the cripple bow has been released on the black market (spending gold from campaigns won't let me reach 1000 ever).

All weapons should be available to everyone, the only thing that helps you get higher is gold and gas.

Without Cripple, yes you can

Hellnight

ATLAS-Z said:

@Hellnight you dogging my armor bro??

That's best (and only) feature of the shop for many folks who already have everything else.

Guild wars shop needs to be attractive to ALL PLAYERS and as it stands, 99.9% of the shop benefits free players WAY more than pay players.

Those of us who spend a little usually have all the good gear already, so we look forward to see what infused treats might be offered that we can't get anywhere else. 

You feel me?

I get your point, I also have almost everything, and I'm going for that armor. What annoys me is that not everything is available to everyone, given the fact that to finish the challenge every week with gold and gas is enough (enough if you have some game capacity).

I totally agree with them getting the weapons out for sale earlier for revenue, but they should also get them out to the next war season for everyone. Competitive players would buy them so as not to be left behind, and not so competitive players would wait.

Another point about the special weapons, is that they should all come out from time to time, or do you think that new players can get special weapons that are rarely used but necessary in specific cases? (dixieland, incendiary bazooka, etc)

Do you think that if they came out on the black market they could buy them? (How long does it take to collect 1000 gold? Do they stop playing the campaigns to buy in the black market?) (5000 coins in the market quickly collect?). Conclusion: No, they can't get them if they don't pay.

I also don't think they wait months playing at a disadvantage (years I would say) to obtain them and be competitive.

We must be clear, those who finish the challenge every week, no matter how many weapons they have, are using gold to repeat if the mission configuration is not convenient.

And, finally, I clarify again that I have almost everything and finish the challenge if I put my mind to it, I speak for the rest of the newer players and with fewer possibilities.

The issue is that you try to maximize profits with less, instead of worrying about keeping the flow and rotation of players as stable as possible.