End of the grind in the next update?

TCBRITO
TCBRITO Member Posts: 313 ✭✭✭✭✭
I would like to know if this new October update will have some change in the format of the weekly challenges, to finish with the grind?? Will we have UC2 again with just two arcs per level?? Please reduce the grind!!
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  • crambert_nec
    crambert_nec Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pls
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  • Troublemaker
    Troublemaker Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please.
  • tabernac
    tabernac Member Posts: 804
    Pretty please, with sugar on top?
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  • crambert_nec
    crambert_nec Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can NG start selling an End-the-Grind Booster each week? Start me at RSL 30 with only 2 tiers per difficulty level but make the stars work out somehow. Pair it with a gas booster for $4-$5 and I'd spend that money every challenge.
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  • JimiFaith
    JimiFaith Member Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well yes... that's the second thing that comes to mind @Jenng I'm surprised that there wasn't wine involved in that description... but that wasn't the point... so...


    Can someone please explain what all of this grindyness is about...?
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  • crambert_nec
    crambert_nec Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course it's a grind, but I'd rather not spend the first day or so of the challenge playing mind numbingly boring ass levels. End gamers need to be able to start higher. Or get rid of triple rounds. Or give us round passes every two levels. Or all of the above! I want to grind where there's actually a challenge. Not grind to get to that point and then BOOM time's up.
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  • Troublemaker
    Troublemaker Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please!
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  • TCBRITO
    TCBRITO Member Posts: 313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    The weekly challenges should honor the name and be really challenging. But in the current format, it is tiring and repetitive, this impossible for maximum level players to continue, so that many abandon in the game. It's no fun playing the early stages of the challenge. With shorter challenges, anyone who reaches their limit can grind into the outpost or search missions for supplies, XP and equipment. ;)
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not gonna happen, not this time. Kaz pretty much said it's on the todo list but still a ways out. Keep pushing tho and it'll come around I'm sure.

    "Soon"


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  • jimmorrison369
    jimmorrison369 Member Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hear, hear.
  • donald6283
    donald6283 Member Posts: 275
    first were all against the grind..then the ultimate challenge came up a few weeks ago...everyone was arguing they didnt have what to do at the weekend cuz they finished the challenge since friday..now they want the UC again...i mean come oooon guys...the grind will always be part of the game since we have players who reach lvl 39 every week...at that point the grind will be present anyway
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The main reason people complained about not having much to do last ultimate challenge was because NG threw a tonne of armoured/tank walkers in with an already difficult map set the week after a no body shot challenge so everyone had 4-5 round passes more than they usually did. Most of us who pushed really hard the week before skipped more rounds than we actually played...
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  • bladgier
    bladgier Member Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @donald6283 last time we had UC, the real reason why people were complaining is not directly because of the format.
    Reason why was, that it got implemented in the worst time possible right after less bodyshot week and no bodyshot sunday and UC being a tough challenge maps. People had loads of round passes that they were not even able to because on no bodyshot almost everybody go way beyond what they can achieve on any other challenge and that comes with big pile of rps. That was the argument.
    Myself I got to rsl 36 and still was on double stars when challenge ended. Stars lost count in this challenge was absolutely enormous due to that.
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  • Bonaqua
    Bonaqua Member Posts: 53
    ATLAS-Z said:

    Not gonna happen, not this time. Kaz pretty much said it's on the todo list but still a ways out. Keep pushing tho and it'll come around I'm sure.



    "Soon"

    This says it all. The next update WILL be great though. ;)
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  • bladgier
    bladgier Member Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    > @capibara said:
    > @bladgier said (edited) ....Stars lost count in this challenge was absolutely enormous due to that.
    >
    > I don't get the point of "losing stars"... if you lose stars everyone is losing stars...
    > I remember in february/march 2016 i was barely playing 300 stars @Movado was playing something like 350...(...now i will browse for a screenshot...)...and everyone was happy with that. No stress, no grind. Just a fun game...

    I was stating a fact, not complaining. I am aware of everything you said and I'm not disagreeing so I don't get what you're trying to do/say with that comment lol.

    Edit:

    Also, game is still fun for me and I am not stressing. Never said I was. Like I said before grind or not I'll be here. I understand people feeling for the grind and I would like to have it fixed for them but personally I'm fine either way.
  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    I think what @bladgier was trying to say was that because of the UC/no body shot gaff lots of us couldn't play our double star rounds, what happens when you skip a round but don't get to play the double round? You lose about 70-80*. I got to 35.2 in the UC week and some people in my guild had 100* more than me despite only being on RSL34.

    No one is really bothered about the generic star loss which goes hand in hand with playing less rounds but it was a real issue that week.
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  • bladgier
    bladgier Member Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes exactly that ☝️👌
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some love to grind, some hate to grind. And grind means different things to different players.

    Finding that middle ground is virtually impossible, but hopefully they keep trying.


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  • Bill_ZRT
    Bill_ZRT Member Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please address the grind.

    I'm sure the next update will contain many nice features, but with a Council upgrade and more powerful survivors and gear it just means that we will be able to push further into challenges, thus increasing the grind.

    Yes, aspects of this game have always been grindy and will always be (grinding experience, etc) but that doesn't mean that maxing out on a weekly challenge should be a 40 hour effort. I have one of those, it's called a job, and the pay is WAY better. Challenges are where the grind has increased exponentially in this game, more than any other area. Remember when 400 stars was mind blowing and there were two challenges a week?
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  • Steeboon
    Steeboon Member Posts: 636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    > @Bill_ZRT said:
    > Please address the grind.
    >
    > I'm sure the next update will contain many nice features, but with a Council upgrade and more powerful survivors and gear it just means that we will be able to push further into challenges, thus increasing the grind.
    >
    > Yes, aspects of this game have always been grindy and will always be (grinding experience, etc) but that doesn't mean that maxing out on a weekly challenge should be a 40 hour effort. I have one of those, it's called a job, and the pay is WAY better. Challenges are where the grind has increased exponentially in this game, more than any other area. Remember when 400 stars was mind blowing and there were two challenges a week?


    That was definitely the worst period in NML, 2 challenges in a week😱
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  • nadecir
    nadecir Member Posts: 271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    > @ATLAS-Z said:
    > Some love to grind, some hate to grind. And grind means different things to different players.
    >
    > Finding that middle ground is virtually impossible, but hopefully they keep trying.
    >
    > You are essentially correct. Some people want to play more, and somr people want to play less. This can even vary week to week.

    The middle ground is very simple. Let players choose their own starting level. For star earning purposes, count the player's best 30 rounds only.

    With a choice, players who want to grind starting at easy levels can do so. Players who just want to play a few challenging rounds can do that too.

    Giving the player the choice on how much to play is the answer. Your guess is as good as mine why NG refuses to implement this simple solution.
  • DBones
    DBones Member Posts: 784
    I don't think you can just have players start at a level of their choosing and count the 30 best rounds. Then you'll inevitably have some people playing from RSL1, thereby 3-starring every single map with ease, thereby screwing up the leaderboards.

    Not saying I personally care about that, but I am sure there are TONS of people who do, so that wouldn't work.
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  • nadecir
    nadecir Member Posts: 271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only the best 30 rounds count for the leaderboards. The round bonuses count too, so competing level 30 is worth 30 times completing level 1.

    The players at the top of the leaderboard will still be the players who can go the farthest in the challenge.

    I picked 30 rounds, but you could pick any reasonable number for the limit and it will work.
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting


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