Vigilant vs Sure Shot

anthony172
anthony172 Member Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Which trait is better or more useful during overwatch?
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  • dalmer
    dalmer Member Posts: 93
    Sure Shot doesn't work in overwatch.
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  • anthony172
    anthony172 Member Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    > @dalmer > @dalmer said:
    > Sure Shot doesn't work in overwatch.

    Then which one is better for Sasha?
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  • Dbl_Edge_DEP
    Dbl_Edge_DEP Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vigilant as it provides more damage without upping the chances of a critical hit.
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  • dalmer
    dalmer Member Posts: 93
    > @anthony172 said:
    > > @dalmer > @dalmer said:
    > > Sure Shot doesn't work in overwatch.
    >
    > Then which one is better for Sasha?

    Neither one.
    On high RSL levels you want to charge Sasha ASAP, so:
    1. You don't leave her on overwatch because she'll hit only one target, so Vigilant is a waste.
    2. You want to use rife which maximizes number of Body Shots (golden luck and caliber), so you will not receive critical shot, so Sure Shot is a waste.

    And on a charged shot critical is guaranteed for a hunter, so Sure Shot is a waste again.

    But in rare cases when you have no better rifle than gold luck, gold caliber and silver piercing Sure Shot is better for Sasha than Vigilant.

    I hope it helps in re-rolling. 😉
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends on your playstyle really. If you don't use piercing and play to a high level, sureshot is wasted. If you stand in one spot and use a piercing rifle then it's a great trait to have. Vigilant is nice for some maps where you don't want to create threat or attract too many walkers. I don't think it's right to say neither is useful.

    That being said, with all of the re-roll tokens in the world ruthless, lucky and revenge are all more useful traits than those two if you are thinking of re-rolling.
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  • anthony172
    anthony172 Member Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you all!
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  • ShadowWalker
    ShadowWalker Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    > > @anthony172 said:
    > > > @dalmer > @dalmer said:
    > > > Sure Shot doesn't work in overwatch.
    > >
    > > Then which one is better for Sasha?
    >
    > Neither one.
    > On high RSL levels you want to charge Sasha ASAP, so:
    > 1. You don't leave her on overwatch because she'll hit only one target, so Vigilant is a waste.

    Hunter Overwatch attacks can hit multiple targets if enemies are lined up properly.
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  • jimmorrison369
    jimmorrison369 Member Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dbl_Edge_DEP said:

    Vigilant as it provides more damage without upping the chances of a critical hit.

    What would be the problem with a critical hit?
    You know a body-shot can not be a critical hit?
    So critical hits don't make the leadertrait work less!

    Or did I mis something here?
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  • Dbl_Edge_DEP
    Dbl_Edge_DEP Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So sure shot helps you gain a crit. Your aim may be to keep threat down but do round about normal damage by using overwatch. You may want a body shot to help gain a charge point instead of doing increased damage.
    I would argue that having gold piercing on weapon and ruthless on Sasha would help once you aim to use charges on that mission.
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  • jimmorrison369
    jimmorrison369 Member Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand keeping the threat down. That is a reason to have vigilant and do overwatch.

    What I don't understand is why you wouldn't want a critical hit. Do note, when you do get a critical hit, you would not get any more body-shots without sure-shot. Just regular hits that aren't body-shots.
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  • Dbl_Edge_DEP
    Dbl_Edge_DEP Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From my perspective, you've got an option of body shot, regular shot and critical shot. Unless the crit is a kill, no charge point is gained. Unless the regular shot is a kill, no charge point is gained. So already 2 out of 3 types of shots require a kill to gain a charge. It makes sense in my head! Maybe I am spewing the ramblings of a mad man.
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  • jimmorrison369
    jimmorrison369 Member Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure-shot can only work when an attack is NOT a body-shot

    When without piercing and against high level walkers.
    --> Sure-shot does literally nothing.
    Not bad, not good. Just nothing.

    When using piercing and against high level walkers.
    --> critical damage makes you kill walkers a lot faster then regular hits do.

    My point is this.

    You'll get the same amount of body-shots with or without sure-shot.
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