Update 3.9 Discussion Thread

as you might know critical isn't same damage always, in the first image as you can see with 0 kills it was 13619, which multiplied per 1,36 is equal to 18512, what is close to 19145 which was the damage of the second image. 

IgorGGT said:

as you might know critical isn't same damage always

all hits isn't same damage always

my tests on main account

Rick lvl trait 3 so 1.36

my team Michonne 5212 damage (expecting damage 7 088)  scout Rick 5452 damage (expecting damage 7 414)

hits after kill 5 zombie

Mich:
5 826
7 246 crit
5 861
5 455
5 475
5 472
6 001
5 445
5 540
5 851
5 400
7 492 crit
5 420 body shot
5 461
5 504
7 303 crit
7 150 crit
5 396 body shot
5 970
5 928
5 841
5 512 body shot
5 521 body shot
7 366 crit

so even close to the expecting damage

same for scout Rick
8 000 crit
7 400 crit
7 880 crit
7 400 crit
7 900 crit
6 255
7 916 crit
5 665
5 617
5 773
7 729 crit
5 796
5 734 body shot
5 750 body shot
5 782
5 804
7 782 crit
7 662 crit
7 712 crit
7 949 crit
5 657 body shot

so even close to the expecting damage


whitout Rick shooter in leader

Mich hits
6 533 crit
5 245
5 645
5 545
5 637
5 604
5 265
5 561

scout Rick hits
5 473
5 462
5 491

and many crits above 7 000-7 500

Fluxxx said:

@Crocodile , would you be able to record a video of a mission where you use Rick's leader trait showing the progression of the buff, and PM it to me along with your in-game name and guild name?

yes, I'm have heavy 500mb videos from my tests but I'm make new, shorter 

Fluxxx said:

ShadowWalker said:

@Fluxxx I was running some scavenge missions with Pizza Glenn equipped with a Swift Strike Spear. I attacked a walker and SS activated, I then opened a crate, however I didn't get a movement after opening the crate. It happened twice, is this how it's suppose to be?

It is working as intended. In general, you can gain only one action point from a trait per turn - but we've already gotten some feedback about this so we'll discuss whether to remove this limitation from Lucky Dumpster. 

Thanks for the response, I definitely think it should change. I just find it odd that I can get 3 movements with Tactical but only 2 with Swift Strike. The way I see it Swift Strike and Lucky Dumpster may activate the same ability, but the requirement for activation is different so both should be able to activate once per turn. Theoretically he should be able to attack 3 times with Hilltop Maggie in the lead. That would be fun.

anyone know how many  Origins tokens will be distributed at what level in the weekly challenge ?

Fluxxx said:

Hey guys, turns out there's been a slight misunderstanding on T-dog's trait on my part. Beat Em Up actually does not grant you an extra attack on top of Punish, it adds the damage on top of it. You can only throw out one attack at the end of the enemy turn.
I apologize for the confusion 😅
Will add a correction on the updates.

ok, what about Rick shooter leader trait? same misunderstanding? 

Well T dog just became 🗑 trash 

Fluxxx said:

Rick's trait applies to the total damage BEFORE flat badges are applied, otherwise % badges work as normal.

this was my guess, see it on my tests
ty for one more useless game mechanic

" Beat Em Up stacks as extra damage on top of Punish. " Is this an out of season april fools joke?

@Fluxxx ⬆️ 

Crocodile said:

Fluxxx said:

Rick's trait applies to the total damage BEFORE flat badges are applied, otherwise % badges work as normal.

my guess same rule work for scout bonus on GW map? 

I would say this applies to all flat damage calculations. So flat damage is added at the very end of the damage calculation, after EVERYTHING else has been calculated.

So for example, a melee survivor with 1000 damage + 1000 flat damage badge (i.e damage shown on survivor screen = 2000), makes a body shot. 1000 * random variation +-20% so let's say 900 * bodyshot 75% = 675 + 1000 = 1675 in damage dealt to the walker.

JordanYuki said:

Fluxxx said:

Hey guys, turns out there's been a slight misunderstanding on T-dog's trait on my part. Beat Em Up actually does not grant you an extra attack on top of Punish, it adds the damage on top of it. You can only throw out one attack at the end of the enemy turn.
I apologize for the confusion 😅
Will add a correction on the updates.

Yikes!! That’s disappointing... Having an additional attack would’ve been so much better. If he had 2 attacks all melee classes would of benefited from his LT. As it is right now, Scouts and Warriors may benefit from it but its not enough to make him a good hero on his own or a good hero to lead other bruisers. 

I think for a bruiser LT to be good, the LT needs to increase the ability to take hits (Eugene) or provide support that helps the bruiser AND other members of his team do their job (RGG and Morgan). Right now T-Dog can help Scouts and Warriors do their job, that is to kill the enemies, but he and other bruisers don’t do much damage and their job is to take hits and stun enemies. Please consider giving him an extra attack with Beat Em Up to give him more crowd control instead of adding the damage with Punish. You guys did an awesome job improving PGG and Shooter Rick by buffing their LTs. Don’t add another hero to the list of heroes with bad LTs.

No reason to use gold for distances now to get all the token .