Fair play for all

Sounds like Fluxx is very clear. This is not a witch hunt against Russian players. This was a script written to find and ban cheaters globally.

Crying about getting caught, or your friends getting caught, won't change anything. Cheating is wrong and breaches fair play rules. Any cheater claiming discrimination based on geography has no credibility to claim such things. 

I think you're making a big deal out of nothing, with all due respect. 

Truth be told, if you'd be worried about other players wellbeing by being cyber bullied or whatever, you would not ever in million years request any cheater names or the details of the checks to be published, becasue that whad would cause witch hunt and made whole "situation" worse. Maybe you haven't thought this trough this far, I don't know. 

Other thing is, most of the people cheating in this game (those that got caught it's also important to mention and those that we know of) were Russian origin and/or location. 
That's a fact, not against minority/nationality comment, just a straight up fact, number. 
Now bearing that in mind, just becasue of that fact, when other legit Russian players are getting the abuse, that's absolutely not NG's or anyone else's fault, it's just people being peole. Idiotic, homofobic, racist, crazy imbeciles etc. like many of them out there are.

You must not hold NG liable for that because they simply aren't.

If you really want for the problem to perish, then stop rubbing it in and it'll go away or slowly die or at least become less apparent. 

Those kind of posts most definitely won't help, even if I believe your intentions are good.

What works best is to try distance yourself from those things and try to turn it into a joke, that makes life much easier because certain, negative behaviours, you'll never ever vanquish them no matter how much you tried.
That said, it's not easy to do that often. 

There's also other side where only NG knows of, only they really know in which locarion/nationality most cheating occurs and that's also important to remember, maybe facts could be that it's not Russian location where most cheats occur, we can't know for sure. It's also crutial they that information stays with them for exact reason this post has emerged. 


Gues what I'm trying to say is:
GOOD VIBES and chill. 

Vladimir_Top said:

brucewayne007 said:

@Vladimir_Top

@Firekid is completely correct in what he said. 

Why you want NG to breakdown the percentages of players banned to what is tested and in what nation, mate they aren’t here to spoon feed us. Don’t cheat and don’t get banned. 

Simple

Its unfortunate that Russia will have this tag. But it’s deserved at present. Blame the minority who have ruined it for the majority. Don’t put it on NG for not providing you statistics. Are you banned? No, so who gives a F. As long as you know you are clean, that’s all that matters. 

Who cares what we think! Or the community. 

When high profile players get done and particular performances raise eye brows. You expect people to question it. 

And I hate to bring this up, but when you have a country with the win at all cost mentality that was banned from the Olympics, it’s very easy for people to tag the Russian Nation with this label. 

This is actually what we are talking about. The misconduct of individual players is projected onto all Russians. I am not asking for separate statistics on nationalities, I am asking for general statistics. To suppress rumors among the Russian-speaking community about bias towards us, it is important to know that everyone is being checked, regardless of merit and nationality. And personally, you demonstrate toxic behavior towards all Russians. @fluxxx pay you attention.

The 2 Russians within the community that I have spoken with will vouch that I do not have toxic behaviour towards the Russian people. I won’t name them but they are both high profiled players for you. 

ghost_pepper said:

If there was crap talk here on this forum about Russian players, i missed it entirely. And i usually scan for every possible post i might be able to make.

it was one, maybe two forum trolls in Top Gun topic but they already got their cookies and crawled under the bridge

I don’t think this proves what you think it proves. They ran a scan because of nation wars. 22 players who participated in nationwars were caught. This doesn’t mean there weren’t 100 players not playing in guild wars who didn’t get caught, just that they didn’t matter and so weren’t discussed.
it was also very general just giving a number of players caught. No breakdown of nationalities or percentages of those checked or anything. 

reekookr said:

I think its always safe bet to be little racist against russians, afterall they shoot down commercial airlines and poison their own people.

Maybe we don't generalize between people who didn't choose where they were born and follow common practices about being good to their neighbors and people who bend a political system to shape their own agenda and hurt others (both from their own country and others) without regard.

Lol literally half of the 22 players banned during NW3 were from Team Russia. There's no NG witch hunt against your country but as far as your reputation goes, your top players are consistently caught cheating. You guys did this to yourselves. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

crambert_nec said:

Lol literally half of the 22 players banned during NW3 were from Team Russia. There's no NG witch hunt against your country but as far as your reputation goes, your top players are consistently caught cheating. You guys did this to yourselves. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Russia must have thousands of players. But we can say 10000 and make this example. 10 players banned are 1/1000 of the players. So you name cheaters 9990 players just because. This is racism. 
Tell me where are you from and I’ll find ten bad people and name you something.
Your logic sucks. 

That's all i am trying to tell them too.

Reputation in this game is built through sharing, making videos, communication, involvement. 

Russian players are distanced from community, can't install our chat apps unfortunately, not much present on forums too. 
Yet when this things happen you come here together in large numbers and support eachother while attacking everyone else. 

i am sorry but this are facts. For everyone here you are group of strangers who show up angry when they get banned or when some exploit you used get fixed

It's definitely true that there is bad atmosphere towards russian players - but you helped creating it with your behavior. 

All this can be fixed if you try to be friendly, more involved and build your reputation by sharing videos and showing who you actually are in this game
I can say for example, i disagreed with almost everything this crazy @Crocodile was posting at beginning here, but now i realise he is one of the most dedicated players in the game. He has my respect

Karajoca said:

I can say for example, i disagreed with almost everything this crazy @Crocodile was posting at beginning here, but now i realise he is one of the most dedicated players in the game. He has my respect

Thanks for the kind words. My crazy anger was against NG when I came to the forum and some of the members of the forum fell under it, but now I'm just trying to be useful to the community and let go of that anger.

marroba2000 said:

crambert_nec said:

Lol literally half of the 22 players banned during NW3 were from Team Russia. There's no NG witch hunt against your country but as far as your reputation goes, your top players are consistently caught cheating. You guys did this to yourselves. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Russia must have thousands of players. But we can say 10000 and make this example. 10 players banned are 1/1000 of the players. So you name cheaters 9990 players just because. This is racism. 
Tell me where are you from and I’ll find ten bad people and name you something.
Your logic sucks. 

My logic is fine because I said your top players are consistently caught cheating, not all players. Where is the lie