3.16 Hot Lead Update - Official discussion thread

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  • IcePeter
    IcePeter Member Posts: 397
    Firekid said:
    It reduces the amount of damage taken after DR is applied apparently. 
    So if 10%, that is applied to the 20% post-DR damage, effectively increasing total DR to 82%? Better than I expected, but eliminating the effect is the big bonus. 
  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it matters whether the reduction comes before or after, I'm no math whizz though.

    Let's say walker damage is set to 40k, around RSL40-42 I think that is. Level 6 Negan LT will drop it to 28k, then 80% DR will mean a crit of around 5.6k. If DR is applied first then it drops to 8k, Negan will again bring it down to 5.6k. You've got dodge and hazard to reduce it further. It's a pretty substantial amount I think! Unless you're on maps where you engage 1-2 at a time I think he needs to be in lead really.
  • ultimateevil13
    ultimateevil13 Member Posts: 36
    Michonnes Leadertrait Bug not fixed.
    Charged Attack has  no threat Reduction.
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IcePeter said:
    Firekid said:
    It reduces the amount of damage taken after DR is applied apparently. 
    So if 10%, that is applied to the 20% post-DR damage, effectively increasing total DR to 82%? Better than I expected, but eliminating the effect is the big bonus. 
    That's the biggest plus. He's gonna be the #1 for maps with Spikes and Tanks - no bleeding, no SR needed.
    @Fluxxx I still wonder about control over his Mark and using him as a leader.
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭


    My mind keeps trying to turn "hot lead" into something naughty... Am I the only one? 

     o:) 


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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:


    My mind keeps trying to turn "hot lead" into something naughty... Am I the only one? 

     o:) 

    Idk, I instantly began to think of Hot Leads episode of The Office 😅


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  • Scotticus
    Scotticus Member Posts: 46 ✭✭✭
    Now that Damage Traits for Merle, Rosita, Dwight and Arron and several others, plus the 'marksman' trait have been reworked, is the viability of those affected heroes altered? Is, for example, Merle now *Gasp*...worth using?
  • Scotticus
    Scotticus Member Posts: 46 ✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:


    My mind keeps trying to turn "hot lead" into something naughty... Am I the only one? 

     o:) 
    I dunno...but I do now imagine H.Darryl and Beta lisping "Hot stuff, comin' through!" as they saunter past walkers and activate their Leadership Traits...
  • ghost_pepper
    ghost_pepper Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hot Stuff??

  • m4s
    m4s Member Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021
    Bulldozer does not generate threat?
    https://youtu.be/PqPu2O19pIU

    2min50sec

    @Fluxxx Can You explain this question?
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  • MudMoccasin
    MudMoccasin Member Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What does Huntsman Daryl's new outfit option look like?
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What does Huntsman Daryl's new outfit option look like?
    Definitely the highlight of this update 😄

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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2021
    I've never been that into skins and cosmetic stuff in gaming, in NML though... Love it.

    Definitely the highlight for me. There needs to be more of this! I want Zombie Sasha and Popeye Glenn next :smiley:
  • ShadowWalker
    ShadowWalker Member Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never realized I wanted zombie versions of Heroes until now.
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WellyLuga said:
    I've never been that into skins and cosmetic stuff in gaming, in NML though... Love it.

    Definitely the highlight for me. There needs to be more of this! I want Zombie Sasha and Popeye Glenn next :smiley:
    Pop-Eye Guy Glenn, smooth :)
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never realized I wanted zombie versions of Heroes until now.
    it takes Guts... 😏
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  • Carl_Tyreese999
    Carl_Tyreese999 Member Posts: 145 ✭✭✭
    What does Huntsman Daryl's new outfit option look like?
    Definitely the highlight of this update 😄

    Now we just gotta bring back this beauty with better traits and we'll have the full setup @Fluxxx
  • find2046
    find2046 Member Posts: 140 ✭✭✭
    Negan's new trait have % DR.  Does it count in the "80% top DR"? 
  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not DR, it's that the walker causes less dmg so they should be separate.
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  • Vov
    Vov Member Posts: 83
    In the map Farm Hands, the objective is KAW but there is a counter. There are some maps like this in the Distance, but how do we distinguish the ones we need to kill and the ones that spawn when counter reaches 0?

    The Bulldozer Shotgun, it seems to fire 5 shots/turn, how does it interact with Sasha's LT or Princess's LT or Beth's area of increasing damage?
    Would be nice to have some clarification here @Fluxxx
  • Fluxxx
    Fluxxx Member Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    m4s said:
    Bulldozer does not generate threat?

    @Fluxxx Can You explain this question?
    It does generate threat :) Footage provided to content creators is usually on our early test builds where there might be a lot of unfinalized features and visuals, and by the time they are, it's usually quite late to start recording because there's a lot of other update matters to take care of - so please bear with us 😣

    find2046 said:
    Negan's new trait have % DR.  Does it count in the "80% top DR"? 
    It is as @Burmeliinis said, the two are calculated separately - DR reduces incoming damage and Negan's trait reduces the enemy's outgoing damage.

    Example:
    • Negan has 1000 HP and 80% Damage reduction
    • Enemy has 500 damage
    • Negan’s Mark reduces enemy damage by 10%
    It would be
    Negan’s mark reduces enemy’s outgoing damage to 450 (500 - 50)
    Negan’s Damage reduction reduces the 250 by 80% = 90 Damage

     Beth's is a little lower than I expected, but even a small % of total health is significant on higher levels.
    For this trait we wanted to stay on the safe side. The area lasts 2 turns and applies to everyone + all attacks (bodyshots, punish, retaliate, revenge, overwatch, firing squad, etc.), so depending on what strategies you guys and other players uncover, we’ll see how the trait performs :D 


  • RickGrames
    RickGrames Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭✭
    new council also?
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  • Fluxxx
    Fluxxx Member Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    new council also?
    No council upgrade this update :) 
  • m0miY
    m0miY Member Posts: 1
    Exiting update , when is going to be live ?
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Fluxxx Can you please share the details on Negan's Mark mechanics?
    Leader vs non-leader would be helpful too. Thanks
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  • ScottyJ
    ScottyJ Member Posts: 37
    When Negan leads he marks 3 walkers instead of just one
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand. I'm asking about the mechanics of Marking.
    Is it the closest walker, the one to the right, left, what's the priority map on that, what if Negan is surrounded by many walkers - which one is tagged when he is not a leader vs when he is a leader? If there are no walkers directly next to him, which are going to be Marked on approach, will it happen on his turn or on walkers turn? How many spaces should be between Negan and a walker for Mark to take affect? Can he mark on overwatch? There are dozens of questions in my head.

    But I guess we'll just have to wait for update to kick in and discover it for ourselves because sadly answers from @Fluxxx are very rare nowadays.
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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the preview video the marking is done at the start of your turn and the closest walker(s) are marked. 
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Be cool if it was whichever way he was facing if they were all equal distance


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