JayZ's NML strategy compendium

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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2021
    For newer players - you can find the list of commonly used terms with explanation in NML Glossary here:

    https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/47202/nml-glossary/p1

    @JayZ hope you don't mind
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  • JayZ
    JayZ Member Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For newer players - you can find the list of commonly used terms with explanation in NML Glossary here:

    https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/47202/nml-glossary

    @JayZ hope you don't mind
    Not at all! Will link it next time I update my guides.
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  • Elsbeth
    Elsbeth Member Posts: 83
    Just wondering, there are so many Hunter weapons, have you rated them, and do you have a link to this info?  
    Your insights and explanations are helpful, clear, and on point.  Who knew Sasha and Beta were two key players!  Now I know, and it’s true.
    Thank you.
  • Paste
    Paste Member Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2021
    Elsbeth said:
    Just wondering, there are so many Hunter weapons, have you rated them, and do you have a link to this info?  
    Your insights and explanations are helpful, clear, and on point.  Who knew Sasha and Beta were two key players!  Now I know, and it’s true.
    Thank you.
    At mid to high levels you basically only need these two (both with Lucky and never with Piercing):
    * Winter Harpoon Gun (for using with Sasha)
    * Festive Shotgun (for using with Shane and sometimes Sasha)

    The Winter version of the Harpoon Gun is superior because it's completely silent (doesn't create threat), but there are no free versions of it, so if you need free then regular lucky harpoon gun works as a substitute in some cases.

    There are a few others which are good in more niche cases. Shane's Shotgun is good for some challenge sets with pre-charged hunters. Devil's Torch used to be the only option for some missions on very high level too, but I think there are very few such cases left because of Shane and Yumiko adding alternatives.

    Watch YouTubers like JayZ use these weapons and you'll understand why: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGSePrANMyf_S_YKJyfJodg
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  • Elsbeth
    Elsbeth Member Posts: 83
    Thank you.

  • JayZ
    JayZ Member Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paste said:
    Elsbeth said:
    Just wondering, there are so many Hunter weapons, have you rated them, and do you have a link to this info?  
    Your insights and explanations are helpful, clear, and on point.  Who knew Sasha and Beta were two key players!  Now I know, and it’s true.
    Thank you.
    At mid to high levels you basically only need these two (both with Lucky and never with Piercing):
    * Winter Harpoon Gun (for using with Sasha)
    * Festive Shotgun (for using with Shane and sometimes Sasha)

    The Winter version of the Harpoon Gun is superior because it's completely silent (doesn't create threat), but there are no free versions of it, so if you need free then regular lucky harpoon gun works as a substitute in some cases.

    There are a few others which are good in more niche cases. Shane's Shotgun is good for some challenge sets with pre-charged hunters. Devil's Torch used to be the only option for some missions on very high level too, but I think there are very few such cases left because of Shane and Yumiko adding alternatives.

    Watch YouTubers like JayZ use these weapons and you'll understand why: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGSePrANMyf_S_YKJyfJodg
    Thanks! Great answer.

    My advanced guide to ranged survivors also describes specific scenarios for Hunter use, and you can see some of those weapons in action.

    https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/395981/#Comment_395981

    (Like everything else, it needs some updating to show how Shane can be used)
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    Strategy compendium: https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/41787/jayzs-nml-strategy-compendium
  • MichelWars
    MichelWars Member Posts: 92 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2021
    @JayZalready have the update of this table?


  • Elsbeth
    Elsbeth Member Posts: 83
    So, I’m wondering, my festive shotguns only have piercing and none have lucky.  Am I missing something? Is there a way to reroll weapon traits?  I don’t recall a festive shotgun without piercing. Thanks.
  • Billbam
    Billbam Member Posts: 1,179
    Elsbeth said:
    So, I’m wondering, my festive shotguns only have piercing and none have lucky.  Am I missing something? Is there a way to reroll weapon traits?  I don’t recall a festive shotgun without piercing. Thanks.
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  • Paste
    Paste Member Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Billbam said:
    Elsbeth said:
    So, I’m wondering, my festive shotguns only have piercing and none have lucky.  Am I missing something? Is there a way to reroll weapon traits?  I don’t recall a festive shotgun without piercing. Thanks.
    You have to buy it for cash in the shop.
    No. Both versions are in the black market. Lucky one is in Shane's store and Piercing in Alphas.
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  • Angelspit
    Angelspit Member Posts: 131 ✭✭✭
    Just a tiny omission since a recent update: both Yumiko and Rick are listed as the best shooter.
    Yumiko: Hands down the best Shooter in the game now.

    Shooter Rick is now the most powerful Shooter in the game.
    I haven't unlocked her yet, but from what I read, I suspect Rick is #2 now.
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  • JayZ
    JayZ Member Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Angelspit said:
    Just a tiny omission since a recent update: both Yumiko and Rick are listed as the best shooter.
    Yumiko: Hands down the best Shooter in the game now.

    Shooter Rick is now the most powerful Shooter in the game.
    I haven't unlocked her yet, but from what I read, I suspect Rick is #2 now.
    Thanks, updated! Also, I think Rick is #3 now. With the reworked leader trait for Aaron, he does massive damage with his charged attacks (especially with SR leading).
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 996
    someone has new numbers how many experience need to upgrade survivors starting from lvl 13?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 996

    from 13 to 14 lvl - - - - - - - 243k
    from 14 to 15 lvl - - - - - - - 292k
    from 15 to 16 lvl - - - - - - - 360k
    from 16 to 17 lvl - - - -- - - 534k
    from 17 to 18 lvl - - - - - - - 720k
    from 18 to 19 lvl - - - - - - 873k
    from 19 to 20 lvl  - - - - - - 995k  
    4 017 000 for 1 hero
    from 20 to 21 lvl - - - - - - -
    from 21 to 22 lvl - - - - - - -
    from 22 to 23 lvl - - - - - - -
    from 23 to 24 lvl - - - - - -

    from 24 to 25 lvl - - -

    from 25 to 26 lvl - - -

    from 26 to 27 lvl - - -

    from 27 to 28 lvl - - - 
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 25
    from 20 to 21 lvl - - - - - - - 1.97 million
    from 21 to 22 lvl - - - - - - - 2.21 million
    from 22 to 23 lvl - - - - - - - 2.46 million
    from 23 to 24 lvl - - - - - - 2.72 million

    from 24 to 25 lvl - - - 2.92 million

    from 25 to 26 lvl - - - 3.11 million

    from 26 to 27 lvl - - - 3.32 million

    Sorry, but I’m not sure about lvl 27 to 28. I still need to upgrade my training grounds to see that, or someone else can say the xp requirement.
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    27 > 28 = 3.62 million.

    Oh vey... You're looking at 26.347 millions per survivor 😬
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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2021
      1000 XP
    Level Upgrade Cost
    2 0
    3 1
    4 2
    5 4
    6 8
    7 14
    8 23
    9 35
    10 49
    11 71
    12 129
    13 189
    14 243
    15 292
    16 360
    17 534
    18 720
    19 873
    20 995
    21 1 968
    22 2 207
    23 2 456
    24 2 718
    25 2 912
    26 3 112
    27 3 319
    28 3 623


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  • m4s
    m4s Member Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2021
    Something wrong @Burmeliinis

    XP Millions Hours:Min



    LEVEL UP 12 0,129 02:15
    LEVEL UP 13 0,189 02:42
    LEVEL UP 14 0,243 03:14
    LEVEL UP 15 0,292 03:53
    LEVEL UP 16 0,36 04:40
    LEVEL UP 17 0,534 05:35
    LEVEL UP 18 0,72 06:42
    LEVEL UP 19 0,873 08:00
    LEVEL UP 20 0,995 09:38
    LEVEL UP 21 1,97 10:40
    LEVEL UP 22 2,21 12:08
    LEVEL UP 23 2,46 12:45
    LEVEL UP 24 2,72 13:23
    LEVEL UP 25 2,91 14:30
    LEVEL UP 26 3,11 16:00
    LEVEL UP 27 3,32 16:00
    LEVEL UP 28 3,62 16:00

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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was the same, just that my figures were "level up cost from level x" while your showed the maybe more logical "level up cost to level x", so I changed the offset of my figures.
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  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2021
    My suggestions to update to your Shooters guide, 

    Ideal weapons - some of these are only available in Guild Wars



    Import .57 (Lucky, Destructive, Crippling) Infused Incendiary ideal for pinning walkers and letting them burn out

    Flare Gun (Charging, Gold Incendiary and Lucky) Infused with High Powered great for Yumiko & Hilltop Maggie


    Winter Bow
    (Silver High Powered, Gold Destructive and Crippling) + Does not generate a threat good for Kill All Walkers



    Ricks Alexandria Pistol (High Powered, Destructive, Crippling) Infused Lucky Great for use with SPY teams
    Assassin Bow (High Powered, Destructive, Crippling) I dont own this one but is effectively a silenced high damage bow

    You can see some of these in action on my youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Nkq-eeI2r3bP9tGJqi4Vw

    Is there any other Shooter weapons Im missing?
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Get with the times Jeff! @JayZ :sunglasses:
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only reason I never made any printed guides for this game is some player coming to tell me my shit is out of date lol

    Eff that haha

    @JayZ don't retire you scrub.

    And ps... This guide has helped many players over the years, and J is the man. 


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  • ghost_pepper
    ghost_pepper Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He'll dunk on you then block your spike.
  • imini5
    imini5 Member Posts: 11
    What is the highest level a player can have? Is it 76, 77 or 78???
  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Member Posts: 25
    I think its likely to be 77. I have a few more things to upgrade and need to farm tomatoes
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    78 is the new max player lvl so far.
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  • Angelspit
    Angelspit Member Posts: 131 ✭✭✭
    It's very unfortunate that with JayZ's retirement this excellent compendium will become outdated eventually. I wish someone could take over. 
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  • Arqueue
    Arqueue Member Posts: 250
    the one who should take over his compendium for the sake of new players is none other than NG itself. at the rate they introduce new heroes, new weapons, new traits, new modes etc, the current compendium needs to be updated frequently. totally, not worth the effort


  • Winston457
    Winston457 Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    Arqueue said:
    the one who should take over his compendium for the sake of new players is none other than NG itself. at the rate they introduce new heroes, new weapons, new traits, new modes etc, the current compendium needs to be updated frequently. totally, not worth the effort



    I don't think we would want NG to take over, it should be a user.  So much of the knowledge is from playing the game everyday, grinding, sharing ideas through the forums/Discord/guild/etc., and trying new things to see if they work.

    NG would never pay someone to do the work required to recreate and then do the day-to-day leg work to keep it up to date.  I also wouldn't trust that a corporation would share all the best info, especially if it was something that helped people spend less on the game.

    Has to be a true user, and hopefully someone will pickup the torch.  Even if they start a new thread by copy/pasting the current guide (with Jayz's permission) and editing it from there.
  • JayZ
    JayZ Member Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone interested in taking over has my full permission to do so! My apologies for not being able to update it in the last few months. The game meta has been changing very quickly, and it was unfortunately too hard for me to keep up with it in this post.
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    Strategy compendium: https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/41787/jayzs-nml-strategy-compendium