Star hero in challenge

Bazyl
Bazyl Member Posts: 12
Star Hero in challenges is the worst thing you did this year .You are just forcing ppl to use character, that might be not suited to the challenge at all.And if it's your attempt to make ppl play smth else than SPY well there are other ways to do it. Though i won't say I'm disappointed as pretty much every update in this year was either garbage or utter garbage.
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  • zeeblack
    zeeblack Member Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2021
    NG has come up with worst ideas but I think this one is not one of them. We can use our creative thinking of making the characters useful in our quest of getting additional stars. Further, this concept was also used in the past (without the additional star). 

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  • Noiserating
    Noiserating Member Posts: 194 ✭✭✭✭
    Very constructive message Bazyl... 
    I think it's a good idea to add Star hero, people will have to think on how they can create a succesful team, other than SPY... and some people will discover the powerfullness of alternative hero.

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  • RiotZappa
    RiotZappa Member Posts: 188 ✭✭✭✭
    Anything that stops people using SPY is a good thing. It’s ruined the game imo so anything as an alternate is for the better.
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  • Bazyl
    Bazyl Member Posts: 12
    @Noiserating assuming they have this specific hero good enough to use her\him in challenge.In my case it'd be just forcing me to spend gold to heal that "star" i bet. Also lets say you have mission, where ranged are better (like there're burning walkers) and Star is Jesus-you are either crippled by wrong leader or won't get 4th star. Dumb idea-removing SPY is simple-change Sasha's leader trait.
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  • kmr
    kmr Member Posts: 163 ✭✭✭
    Bazyl said:
    @Noiserating assuming they have this specific hero good enough to use her\him in challenge.In my case it'd be just forcing me to spend gold to heal that "star" i bet. Also lets say you have mission, where ranged are better (like there're burning walkers) and Star is Jesus-you are either crippled by wrong leader or won't get 4th star. Dumb idea-removing SPY is simple-change Sasha's leader trait.
    That's why it is called challenge..
    It's a good solution to ease the current SMY dominance.
    If you don't like the idea, or don't want challenge yourself just take the regular teams, play the challenge as it is now. problem solved. 
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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also think this is a good idea. Now obviously there's the huge issue that if you want to max the challenge with 4 stars in all missions it will eat a boatload of gold and tools, and even then it might not be doable. But that's the whole point of this thing. Now we have hundreds of players getting full score in the challenge, and with the star hero approach we should get back to the situation where there is only one winner every week (unless the star hero is Sasha). 

    You just have to mentally adjust to the new reality that getting max score every week is not sustainable. But it will still be just as easy as before to get that same 4878 score, and as long as NG doesn't nerf the rewards everything should be ok. You say that we are forced to use the star hero, but we aren't. If you want to get to the top of the leaderboard, then yes, it will require much more effort than before, but that's how it should be.
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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bazyl said:
    @Noiserating assuming they have this specific hero good enough to use her\him in challenge.In my case it'd be just forcing me to spend gold to heal that "star" i bet. Also lets say you have mission, where ranged are better (like there're burning walkers) and Star is Jesus-you are either crippled by wrong leader or won't get 4th star. Dumb idea-removing SPY is simple-change Sasha's leader trait.
    Nerfing heroes is a big no-no in F2P games like these. Many people paid serious money to get their Sasha, Princess and Mercer to where they are, and suddenly making the unicorn heroes crap would not be taken lightly. It's like selling you a Ferrari and then after 6 months say "oh, it was just temporary, we'll change this to a Lada now". Stuff can be nerfed soon after launching them if they are clearly overpowered, but doing it years or months later is just not possible.
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  • Bazyl
    Bazyl Member Posts: 12
    @kmr i want but i don't see reason why I should be FORCED to use some specific character-this is just idiotic to make me choose either to use char that i don't want\can't use or get less stars. Also i don't play the broken teams for few reasons. And like i said-there are better ways to get rid of such team-simply change their traits. Tho imo Mercer is another "brilliant" idea-this guy is some junk character that appeared in few episodes, really really bad ones to boot. Where are Andrea, Herschel, Tyreese and so on?
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  • Firekid
    Firekid Member Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bazyl said:
    @Noiserating assuming they have this specific hero good enough to use her\him in challenge.In my case it'd be just forcing me to spend gold to heal that "star" i bet. Also lets say you have mission, where ranged are better (like there're burning walkers) and Star is Jesus-you are either crippled by wrong leader or won't get 4th star. Dumb idea-removing SPY is simple-change Sasha's leader trait.
    Don’t change Sasha’s leadertrait you change yumikos. Change it so that you get a chance (high chance!) of 1 charge point from hitting a walker from firing squad and don’t allow Sasha or princesses leader trait to take affect during firing squad. Problem solved and allows for many more team combinations and allows for yumiko to be leader in more situations. She’ll still be incredibly useful but SMY/SPY would no longer dominate. 
    However I don’t quite get what your saying. Star hero may make it harder to score max, but not allowing people to use SPY/SMY would make it soooooo much harder to even 3 star some maps. Either you want a challenge or you don’t. 
    I like the idea of star hero BTW. Will hopefully see some variation on the leaderboard again. 
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  • kmr
    kmr Member Posts: 163 ✭✭✭
    @Bazyl You will have the same amount of stars as today. You will have more if you use the star hero as leader. Just find your amount of efforts you want to put in. I'm sure star heros will be easily use in the first few rounds.
    You are not forced at all, this is just an opportunity to gain extra stars for your additional efforts.
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2021
    There's very little point replying to these type of threads, you're unlikely to change the way the OP feels. There is no forced, you choose to use the star hero or not. It's not like you can't play any further without. End of discussion. This should help...


    Better?
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  • ADPaq
    ADPaq Member Posts: 436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bit like you aren't forced to play SMY / SPY, oh wait....
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  • DyAmond
    DyAmond Member Posts: 101 ✭✭✭
    Bazyl said:
    @kmr i want but i don't see reason why I should be FORCED to use some specific character-this is just idiotic to make me choose either to use char that i don't want\can't use or get less stars. Also i don't play the broken teams for few reasons. And like i said-there are better ways to get rid of such team-simply change their traits. Tho imo Mercer is another "brilliant" idea-this guy is some junk character that appeared in few episodes, really really bad ones to boot. Where are Andrea, Herschel, Tyreese and so on?

    We get it ,you only want to play with your fav character and never change them,but thats not hapenning a Random Event ITS that Random ,nobody forces you to use that Star Hero and making it in a way YOU are happy its no fair for lots of people,try being less negative with that "Everything they do is garbage" Attitude is 0% Constructive 
    Bazyl
  • ghost_pepper
    ghost_pepper Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not just buy the top scoreboard  spot with gold?
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not just buy the top scoreboard  spot with gold?
    Auction it! 🤣
    Don't give NG any ideas 😏
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Huge, biggly NO to nerfing Sasha's or Yumiko's or anyone else's LT.

    Improving or adding to any hero's LT (like with every rebuffed hero in the past) - sure, it's welcome.

    Nerfing - XXXL sized NO.
    It's a slippery slope and a fast way for pissing off everyone who spent resources on any heroes.
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say introduce +1 Star for NOT using tools in Challenges for every mission.
    That will settle it.
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  • Bazyl
    Bazyl Member Posts: 12
    @FuriousMoldvan i wasn't clear with it, my bad-i meant that changing them is one of ways, you are right that there are other, prolly better solutions,
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Strong and skilled players welcome the added challenge, and building up your roster is part of that challenge.

    I know myself and I'll build my troops up to unicorn, those that aren't there already, and who knows... Maybe I'll take shot at the Leaderboard here and there. 

    The main thing that prevents me from getting on the leaderboard won't be star hero, or gold, or tools or anything else like that. What will prevent me is round passes. On rare occasions Ive had time to devote to crushing the challenge I've been successful every time, but almost never do I have time 2 weeks in a row. This is unlikely to change so I'll unlikely show up on the global boards.




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  • brucewayne007
    brucewayne007 Member Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don’t you get bored of playing the same team over and over and have a LB littered with Ties? 
    More advanced players want the challenge and are sick of the same old stuff. 
    Instead of whining about having to use different teams, grow a pair and strategise with whatever team they throw at you. Look forward to the Challenge of it. 
    I use to enjoy watching videos and seeing what teams people come up with. But now I don’t waste my energy, because I can assume 99% of the time who the Toons are. 
    Star Hero is a great thing. Breaks the monotony 
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  • Bassreactor
    Bassreactor Member Posts: 133
    edited December 2021
    Bazyl said:
    @Noiserating Dumb idea-removing SPY is simple-change Sasha's leader trait.
    Change Sasha's leader trait? I think you don't know but SPY is not best combo PMY is more powerful.
    If everyone want change situation NG need make unlimited scores and rounds.
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  • pollorex
    pollorex Member Posts: 257
    I love the idea, said the guy haven't set up spy jajaja.

    Would you believe if I say i almost don't use spy. Right now my favorite team is SRick Sasha glen.

    This idea will stop a little the problem with the ranking. The ones can't get the 4 will have a different score.

    Who will get the real #1 let's see. The one i know won't be is me jajaja
  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2021
    Bazyl said:
    Star Hero in challenges is the worst thing you did this year .You are just forcing ppl to use character, that might be not suited to the challenge at all.And if it's your attempt to make ppl play smth else than SPY well there are other ways to do it. Though i won't say I'm disappointed as pretty much every update in this year was either garbage or utter garbage.
    You can STILL use the characters you want to use. NG isn't forcing people to use different team compositions. Don't care about reaching round 80? Don't.
    Want to score perfect? Star Hero. 

    What a concept eh?
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  • Arqueue
    Arqueue Member Posts: 250
    please let Jerry, Beth, Gabriel, Rosita and Tara be star heroes. take turns in that order. thank you!
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  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2021
    Bazyl said:
    @kmr i want but i don't see reason why I should be FORCED to use some specific character-this is just idiotic to make me choose either to use char that i don't want\can't use or get less stars. Also i don't play the broken teams for few reasons. And like i said-there are better ways to get rid of such team-simply change their traits. Tho imo Mercer is another "brilliant" idea-this guy is some junk character that appeared in few episodes, really really bad ones to boot. Where are Andrea, Herschel, Tyreese and so on?
    New account, 5 posts, you're trolling right?
  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WellyLuga said:
    There's very little point replying to these type of threads, you're unlikely to change the way the OP feels. There is no forced, you choose to use the star hero or not. It's not like you can't play any further without. End of discussion. This should help...


    Better?
    OP is worried about "less stars" 

    OP never sniffed the global leaderboard in his life 😃
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  • pollorex
    pollorex Member Posts: 257
    NG have to do something with the SPY PMY.



    NG CAN'T FORCE ME TO USE A SPECIFIC CHAR!
  • pollorex
    pollorex Member Posts: 257
    So the idea of give less star to the ones who use tools is better?
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pollorex said:
    ...
    NG CAN'T FORCE ME TO USE A SPECIFIC CHAR!


    Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything.

    Use whoever you like ;)

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