⚔️ Guild Wars BETA ⚔️ - Moving Forward

ZXer said:

@ATLAS-Z @Paste @wms

The problem may not be that the matchmaking does not work - most guilds with more uniform strength seem to get close to 50-50 performance.

The ways to score more wins seem to be related to (intentionally or not) find ways to avoid meeting stronger or equally strong guilds. This is easy to do now there is data in public domain to observe what other guilds are doing.

For top guilds, this means never play teams of 8 and teams of 6. You know from past data they almost always go with teams of 8 and teams of 6, rarely with teams of 7, almost never with teams of 10, 9, or 5 and fewer.

For mid tier guilds, this means play MORE often teams of 6 or fewer.

You cannot improve matchmaking and force "Sweden" with teams of 9 to play WW or TLOU or RIH with teams of 6.

ShadowWalker said:

ShadowWalker said:

One thing I would like to see is an improvement to the way we can earn class bonuses. Pretty much everybody ignores the bonus sectors because they're not worth doing. Which is sad, because it could actually help make other teams more viable at higher levels.

Why not get rid of the bonus sectors and give smaller class bonuses for completing regular sectors? For example, if you complete 17A then Warriors deal 20% more damage, complete 17B maybe Bruisers get more health. If you complete another sector with a Warrior damage bonus then they can stack.

Also, allow us to toggle bonuses on or off before going into maps. This way if you get something like; Assaults 20% less chance of body shot, then you can turn it off and still use SMY.

I think I came up with a better idea than my previous suggestion that I posted above. Smaller bonuses, stacking bonuses and toggling them off might be too complicated to implement. Also, people will probably still just use SMY most of the time anyway. 

Here is my new idea:

1. Still get rid of those bonus sectors.

2. Each sector has it's own class bonus. Perhaps there can be an additional smaller bonus for the entire Island.

3. Each sector will also have a class that you can't use at all.

So for example, imagine you log in to Guild Wars and 20A has a class bonus of +50% Scout damage and no Assaults are allowed. 20B then maybe has +25% less chance of body shots for Hunters and no Warriors allowed. 20C then might have +25% less chance of body shot for Bruisers and no Shooters allowed. The bonuses and excluded classes will be the same for all teams playing on the same day.

This could shake things up quite a bit. Players will potentially have to use other strategies, and guilds may have to actually consider if they can complete 20. 

ATLAS-Z said:

@brucewayne007 awesome dude haha



For example... We at Zombrex don't care lol

Billbam said:

ShadowWalker said:

@Billbam the idea is that there would be a certain class you can't use at all, but the class may be different for each sector. So in 20A you might not be able to use Bruisers at all, and in 20B you might not be able to use any Assaults. The bonuses will also be different for each sector and will only affect that sector. Both bonuses and excluded classes will change for each battle.

I was kind of inspired by the suggestion of having sectors where you can't use tools. However, I realized that would just lead to players relying on SMY even more because that is the team that you can most likely complete a mission without using tools. So my solution was just have sectors where you can't use certain classes. 

@WellyLuga yes the bonuses/excluded classes should be the same for every guild playing on the same day. It definitely would have to at least be the same for the teams facing off against each other.

Hopefully you intend this for the max level sections only...limited classes to low and mid level players would just throw roadblocks at them that they will get frustrated with and basically stop growing.  Not to mention make it harder to keep less motivated players in GW.