Michonne in a Star Hero Yumiko Princess (SHYP) team for Challenge

TyroneSlothrop
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With the Star Hero as Michonne, I thought I would try a SHYP team (Star Hero Yumiko Princess).

I assume that in most SHYP configurations, the reason it is versatile is you mostly lean on Yumiko and Princess.

What is the Star Hero suppose to do then? Go full defensive with damage reduction and health badging? Anything anyone who has used SHYP can tell me about what to do and not do?

To me, it seems a bit like the "One City Challenge" (OCC) in the game Civilization where you are to try to win at the hardest level with only one city ever. Here, I think SHYP seems to be about winning with Yumiko and Princess and letting the Star Hero do as much or as little as it can, but to rely on it as little as possible... Am I wrong?
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A defensive build on a warrior isn't going to be much good above a certain level. I'd recommend a damage build, mine is still as she started so I won't bother now.

    The morning star will help to stun walkers for Princess to charge up on. 
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  • faster
    faster Member Posts: 15
    Is razor good to upgrade on morning star,i mean more body shots and stun without razor?
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  • TyroneSlothrop
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    WellyLuga said:
    A defensive build on a warrior isn't going to be much good above a certain level. I'd recommend a damage build, mine is still as she started so I won't bother now.

    The morning star will help to stun walkers for Princess to charge up on. 
    I know a full defensive build on a warrior doesn't make a lot of sense, but I guess I am not understanding how the SHYP (star hero yumiko princess) team works at all. Normally, I wouldn't use warriors for anything -- they're my least favorite class. But with Michonne as star hero, I thought I would see if I could figure out how SHYP teams work. I assumed the star hero in that team is a bit of a third leg, in which case defensive might be ok. But yes, if it means avoiding contact at all at higher levels, then their is no point in having a melee character at all.

    So with a damage build/morning star Michonne, would the idea be to have Michonne and Princess tag team and mostly hang together?
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    I’m gone can be. Powerhouse if done right.
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  • ADPaq
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    TyroneSlothrop said:
    WellyLuga said:
    A defensive build on a warrior isn't going to be much good above a certain level. I'd recommend a damage build, mine is still as she started so I won't bother now.

    The morning star will help to stun walkers for Princess to charge up on. 
    I know a full defensive build on a warrior doesn't make a lot of sense, but I guess I am not understanding how the SHYP (star hero yumiko princess) team works at all. Normally, I wouldn't use warriors for anything -- they're my least favorite class. But with Michonne as star hero, I thought I would see if I could figure out how SHYP teams work. I assumed the star hero in that team is a bit of a third leg, in which case defensive might be ok. But yes, if it means avoiding contact at all at higher levels, then their is no point in having a melee character at all.

    So with a damage build/morning star Michonne, would the idea be to have Michonne and Princess tag team and mostly hang together?

    Michonne can help Princess get charged more quickly by utilising the morning star to stun walkers.

    Ideally, Yumiko will be using a cripple incendiary weapon which will also aid charging.

    So apply status affect (stun, cripple, burning) then use Yumiko to charge Princess. If you get enough status effects going Princess should charge every round.
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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah for the most part Princess and Yumiko do the majority of the heavy lifting so you've got to think how you can navigate the map with just those two. When it's actually a good hero like it was with Yumiko things are a little different, but with Michonne her LT doesn't apply to the others and above a certain level she's not really going to get kills. 

    She can open boxes and gates whilst the other two do the real work :lol:
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2022
    WellyLuga said:
    Yeah for the most part Princess and Yumiko do the majority of the heavy lifting so you've got to think how you can navigate the map with just those two. When it's actually a good hero like it was with Yumiko things are a little different, but with Michonne her LT doesn't apply to the others and above a certain level she's not really going to get kills. 

    She can open boxes and gates whilst the other two do the real work :lol:


    Maybe a little stealth ranged melee mix coming soon? To the SHPY? 


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  • Governator
    Governator Member Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I’ve been using the SHPY team for most rounds. But, I use Michonne with the Interrupt MS to give Yumi and Princess some defense against single walkers. But, she’s good for opening crates too. :sunglasses:
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:
    WellyLuga said:
    Yeah for the most part Princess and Yumiko do the majority of the heavy lifting so you've got to think how you can navigate the map with just those two. When it's actually a good hero like it was with Yumiko things are a little different, but with Michonne her LT doesn't apply to the others and above a certain level she's not really going to get kills. 

    She can open boxes and gates whilst the other two do the real work :lol:


    Maybe a little stealth ranged melee mix coming soon? To the SHPY? 

    That's a really odd DAR - rooting with some additional rooting 😆 on top of that no wide cone, so can't be that useful on most maps. And piercing - so can't be useful with Sasha lead.
    I'll pass.
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  • FuriousMoldovan
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    faster said:
    Is razor good to upgrade on morning star,i mean more body shots and stun without razor?

    You do need 1 MS with tactical, razor, destructive as a dmg dealer.

    When it comes to second no-razor MS:


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  • JayZ
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    @FuriousMoldovan only potentially useful in Expert Mode LS with someone like Mercer, I think. You have the benefit of the Tactical movement after firing. Otherwise, agree that it is a very limited use case.
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  • ATLAS-Z
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    FuriousMoldovan said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    WellyLuga said:
    Yeah for the most part Princess and Yumiko do the majority of the heavy lifting so you've got to think how you can navigate the map with just those two. When it's actually a good hero like it was with Yumiko things are a little different, but with Michonne her LT doesn't apply to the others and above a certain level she's not really going to get kills. 

    She can open boxes and gates whilst the other two do the real work :lol:


    Maybe a little stealth ranged melee mix coming soon? To the SHPY? 

    That's a really odd DAR - rooting with some additional rooting 😆 on top of that no wide cone, so can't be that useful on most maps. And piercing - so can't be useful with Sasha lead.
    I'll pass.

    I don't think this is intended for Sasha lead bro lol

    SPY teams are covered I think we can all agree


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  • Cronus
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    ATLAS-Z said:
    FuriousMoldovan said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    WellyLuga said:
    Yeah for the most part Princess and Yumiko do the majority of the heavy lifting so you've got to think how you can navigate the map with just those two. When it's actually a good hero like it was with Yumiko things are a little different, but with Michonne her LT doesn't apply to the others and above a certain level she's not really going to get kills. 

    She can open boxes and gates whilst the other two do the real work :lol:


    Maybe a little stealth ranged melee mix coming soon? To the SHPY? 

    That's a really odd DAR - rooting with some additional rooting 😆 on top of that no wide cone, so can't be that useful on most maps. And piercing - so can't be useful with Sasha lead.
    I'll pass.

    I don't think this is intended for Sasha lead bro lol

    SPY teams are covered I think we can all agree
    Just wondering with a narrow cone where is its usefulness? What melee team does this fit with? For that matter what mapset where only a select group of walkers makes the narrow cone a non-issue compared to using the Lucky DAR?
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  • ATLAS-Z
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    Yeah narrow cone kinda sucks admittedly @Cronus

    Maybe @Adeline will show us some usefulness for it? 🤷


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  • Cronus
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    I know, now every time I look at a new weapon I ask myself "Is this the one that will finally get me a perfect score?".
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    ATLAS-Z said:
    Yeah narrow cone kinda sucks admittedly @Cronus

    Maybe @Adeline will show us some usefulness for it? 🤷
    😂 Why me?
    I don't know how it's useful without the wide spread. But I realized often when there's a weapon with new traits being introduced, after some time, there will be a better one 😅 correct me if I am wrong.
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    Lol idk @Adeline I watch your channel, you're pretty clever with the strats. 


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    Adeline said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Yeah narrow cone kinda sucks admittedly @Cronus

    Maybe @Adeline will show us some usefulness for it? 🤷
    😂 Why me?
    I don't know how it's useful without the wide spread. But I realized often when there's a weapon with new traits being introduced, after some time, there will be a better one 😅 correct me if I am wrong.
    Perhaps you should purchase it and see if you can get a perfect score too.
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    ATLAS-Z said:
    Lol idk @Adeline I watch your channel, you're pretty clever with the strats. 
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  • Adeline
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    Cronus said:
    Adeline said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Yeah narrow cone kinda sucks admittedly @Cronus

    Maybe @Adeline will show us some usefulness for it? 🤷
    😂 Why me?
    I don't know how it's useful without the wide spread. But I realized often when there's a weapon with new traits being introduced, after some time, there will be a better one 😅 correct me if I am wrong.
    Perhaps you should purchase it and see if you can get a perfect score too.
    Yes, I already got it but not upgraded yet 😂
    Will give it a try depending on the kind of mission but if I can't make it through, I will use other gear 😅
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  • ATLAS-Z
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    I've upgraded mine and played around with it. 

    Actually did a 50+ challenge mission with Guardian Carol leading Mercer and Yumiko... Just for kicks. Carol had the guild wars burn rifle with silencer trait and yumiko the Cripple winter bow. 

    Not as easy as spy or smy but that spawn counter didn't budge. 3 stars. I redid it with star hero after, cuz, that's how we roll nowadays. 

    Right now I only see it being useful during assault star hero weeks when you're wanting to run a melee team. 


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  • FuriousMoldovan
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    JayZ said:
    @FuriousMoldovan only potentially useful in Expert Mode LS with someone like Mercer, I think. You have the benefit of the Tactical movement after firing. Otherwise, agree that it is a very limited use case.
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    I use Zeke and Beta with 3H + 3DR teamed with drive by Daryl 3dam + 3 cd. I got my highest score ever last week. I figure that with the morning stars, warriors are useful for the stun effect and not damage. Daryl does the killing. I'm not as good as most of you, but badging them like bruisers has taken me further in the challenge than ever before.
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