Survival pass way overpriced

It’s way too expensive. Here in Aus its $23. Lasts a little over a month. For a few little bits and pieces in an iPhone game. That’s more than a World of Warcraft subscription, and do you know how much content there is for that?

You guys are losing money with this pricing. In my guild virtually everyone has said they might do it for $5 (AU$7), but no way they’re paying this. That’s 12-14 people x $7 = $98 vs $0 you’ll get with current pricing.

That’s before the inherent 2 speed imbalances this will cause, between those that do pay and those that don’t, and the inevitable minor exodus over the next 6-8 months that always follows. 

Look at Supercell. Probably the biggest iOS game company. Their season pass equivalent is AU$7 and lasts for 35 days. They get huge % take up. That’s how you do a season. Small $, everyone in. Not this. This sucks. 
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  • Firekid
    Firekid Member Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Personally I can see both sides of the argument, for me, it’s a gold bundle with 2300+ worth of gold plus 150 phones and 12 tools. If that came in as a normal bundle for 12.99 (not including the reskinned weapon) I would probably have bought it. However from NG’s side I agree that the price point has probably put off those players who wouldn’t normally buy bundles anyway. It was and still is (if they change the price) a good way to get people to start spending. 
    The fact I bought it doesn’t really mean much to them as chances are I would have bought a different bundle with gold in anyway.
    I guess they’ll be looking over their figures at the end of this season pass and will make changes accordingly. 
    Just out of interest if it had been a new weapon, or a weapon which has not been available for anything but real money yet, would that have changed your mind regarding the value/tempted you to spend. 
  • Winston457
    Winston457 Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    I've been on the fence about buying it.  Most likely I will wait to see what the second Season Pass has to offer.  Not having a new weapon, or a good real money weapon, has made it easy to resist the purchase.
    If next season has a better price point and/or a better weapon, then I will likely buy it.
    For the longest time I refused to spend money on the game.  When I finally got to the top tier I decided it was OK to spend a little here and there.  Now I will buy a bundle if I really feel the value is there, and that has always meant a good weapon.  I would guess that I buy a bundle once or twice a year at this point, for the past 2-3 years.
    I just can't justify spending $15us for a bunch of stuff I can farm myself and don't really use a lot anyway.  I'm very stingy with my resources, and learning the better strategies (SPY/SMY) has allowed me to drastically reduce my tool usage.  I could maybe justify $15 for a top tier weapon that I don't already have, but definitely not for a reskin.
  • Smoose89
    Smoose89 Member Posts: 26
    I don't understand how it's the same in pounds and in us dollars.
    To be honest the whole game pricing structure needs a rethink. £10 to reroll a trait. Crazy pricing.
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Again @Winston457 what is "a good real money weapon"?

    List examples that would make you get season pass

    And don't say Flaming harpoon like @Superhero


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  • Superhero
    Superhero Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:
    And don't say Flaming harpoon like @Superhero

    Whats wrong with a flaming harpoon if they make them look like it and drop it as the main reward?
  • JordanYuki
    JordanYuki Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2022
    Superhero said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    And don't say Flaming harpoon like @Superhero

    Whats wrong with a flaming harpoon if they make them look like it and drop it as the main reward?
    Lucky harpoon with incendiary would have been op, maybe with piercing it would have been alright. Not sure how useful that would have been though 

  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Superhero said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    And don't say Flaming harpoon like @Superhero

    Whats wrong with a flaming harpoon if they make them look like it and drop it as the main reward?

    Because the Harpoon Gun is already overpowered and there's only one thing that will make you choose another weapon and that's when you need fire. If you put fire on the Harpoon Gun you literally will never need another weapon ever and then where do you go from there?


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  • Winston457
    Winston457 Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Again @Winston457 what is "a good real money weapon"?

    List examples that would make you get season pass

    And don't say Flaming harpoon like @Superhero
    Add Incendiary to the Tactical Decimator? lol
    Seriously though, I'm not the creative type.  I'll give it a shot though:
    - Bayonet Musket that only requires two charge points
    - Dragon's Tongue grants two charge points for a kill (Like Obisdian Ripper)
    - Obsidian Ripper with Dragons Tounge attack area, Silver Tactical, Gold Destructive & Razor
    - Import .57 with Silver Tactical, Gold Cripple, Gold High Powered, Infused Incendiary
    - Winter Flare Gun with Silver Tactical, Gold Lucky, Gold Incendiary, Infused Gold High Powered
    - Morning Star with Concussion instead of Destructive
  • Shezza10
    Shezza10 Member Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Again @Winston457 what is "a good real money weapon"?
    The main problem with this weapon is that it’s 18 months old AND it’s been in the GW shop. I think ANY real money weapon that they’ve released in the last 6-9 months would have been better and would likely got my money. If there are players out there that don’t have the winter harpoon already then this season pass is great value, it makes you wonder who this is actually aimed at?
  • Thüringer
    Thüringer Member Posts: 170 ✭✭✭✭
    Shezza10 said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Again @Winston457 what is "a good real money weapon"?
    The main problem with this weapon is that it’s 18 months old AND it’s been in the GW shop. I think ANY real money weapon that they’ve released in the last 6-9 months would have been better and would likely got my money. If there are players out there that don’t have the winter harpoon already then this season pass is great value, it makes you wonder who this is actually aimed at?
    Agree @Shezza10, and the Winter Harpoon was in the Black Market too, i have already two Winter Harpoons... 🤷‍♂️



  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shezza10 said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Again @Winston457 what is "a good real money weapon"?
    The main problem with this weapon is that it’s 18 months old AND it’s been in the GW shop. I think ANY real money weapon that they’ve released in the last 6-9 months would have been better and would likely got my money. If there are players out there that don’t have the winter harpoon already then this season pass is great value, it makes you wonder who this is actually aimed at?

    New players I'm guessing. To bring them in with shiny treats and daily tasks to groom them into keep logging in? And a proven top tier weapon? 


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  • SpankyMcPewPew
    SpankyMcPewPew Member Posts: 5
    $12.99 might not be much in the USA, but $24 is quite a lot here is Australia. Add 10 for a year and we’re talking $240 for a year. That’s 3 copies of Cyberpunk or any other brand new top shelf games. 

    It’s just nowhere near worth that. A few dollars is something you can justify, and you’d get good user uptake, and keep people closer to a level playing field. 

    With current pricing I might, MIGHT, buy one a year for the gold or if there’s a weapon I need. I absolutely will not be buying it every month. And neither will anyone else I know here in Aus. 
  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2022
    $12.99 might not be much in the USA, but $24 is quite a lot here is Australia. Add 10 for a year and we’re talking $240 for a year. That’s 3 copies of Cyberpunk or any other brand new top shelf games. 

    It’s just nowhere near worth that. A few dollars is something you can justify, and you’d get good user uptake, and keep people closer to a level playing field. 

    With current pricing I might, MIGHT, buy one a year for the gold or if there’s a weapon I need. I absolutely will not be buying it every month. And neither will anyone else I know here in Aus. 
    The pass is like Pokemon, you have to buy them all. Dr Dozer's orders, sorry those are the rules.
  • MrLucky
    MrLucky Member Posts: 850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought the first taste would've been for free, then get us hookin' in the streets to support our habit.   :#
  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrLucky said:
    I thought the first taste would've been for free, then get us hookin' in the streets to support our habit.   :#
    They do have free path.

    Premium Pass anyone? 🤣


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  • n00b
    n00b Member Posts: 79
    The problem is not the price, but the lack of unique rewards. I would rather get some unique hero outfits than gold/tools and even a weapon skin (I don't need a 3rd harpoon gun that needs exp to be upgraded and space in the armory).
  • Hirntod
    Hirntod Member Posts: 80 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2022
    To bait me, there should be a good support tokens reward like michonne's cat, carol's cookies or mask at least - sorry, I won't give a cent for this scrappy tiger. 
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  • Billbam
    Billbam Member Posts: 1,179
    How about the Winter Harpoon gun with a couple of extra spaces of distance to it.  
  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are better things to be upset over. Like Negan being included in the special call over Ezekiel. Zeke is always the bridesmaid.
  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrLucky said:
    I thought the first taste would've been for free, then get us hookin' in the streets to support our habit.   :#
    They do have free path.

    Premium Pass anyone? 🤣


    This needs to be included
  • Pain Walker
    Pain Walker Member, Content Creator Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The same Pass in Puzzle Tales is $24,99 and $19,99 in Our World. This game has the cheapest pass out of the 3 NG games.

    Not to mention 30% cut from Apple/Google per Pass Purchase.

    I would buy the pass after I have enough points to unlock all Tiers in case something happens and I can’t play for days/weeks so get the most value for my money. 

    I thought the price would be around 19,99 but the current pricing is pretty Al right. 

    I do agree on the Weapon part… Would be cool to get new Unique Weapons every Season…  For instance a Weapon with 3 Gold Traits instead of 2 Gold and 1 Silver? Would be nice to have a uniqueness like with GW Shop and the Infused Weapons…

    Probably making a video!

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  • JordanYuki
    JordanYuki Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2022
    Is it to late to give us a platinum “Crimson Harpoon Gun”? 👀
  • hdhdh
    hdhdh Member Posts: 58 ✭✭✭
    I probably would've got the season pass if the harpoon had cripple or another trait since incendiary would've been OP. Or even "platinum" lucky or destructive as mentioned above 
  • Stalker20
    Stalker20 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the crimson harpoon had say silver destructive and gold incendiary - lucky but raised threat, that wouldn't be too op would it? 
  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2022
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Ooooo @Pain Walker from left field with a good idea! (ATLAS assist below) 

    Introduce Platinum gear

    2 gold traits and 1 platinum trait

    ONLY available on Season pass. 

    No need to come up with constantly new or special ideas just for season passes, just platinum-up any top tier gear and you've got a tasty reward at the end. @Lexia

    (keep doing new skins too cuz those are nice) 


    Nice suggestion, I like it :wink:. New gear is about the only thing I'll open my wallet for these days and there's not been one thing worth buying in a long time.

    https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/48403/reinforcement-tokens-suggestion-platinum#latest
  • echonap
    echonap Member Posts: 198 ✭✭✭
    Stalker20 said:
    If the crimson harpoon had say silver destructive and gold incendiary - lucky but raised threat, that wouldn't be too op would it? 
    The fact that it has incendiary and you can root as an extra free attack is what makes it overpowered. Removing silence does nothing to lessen that. It is a wasted trait with SPY/SMY anyway