Mercer has destroyed interest in the guild war.

Probably SPY/SMY has also destroyed NG income  With that team you don't need to use tools and gold for heals

A good game should be the one that is easy to learn and hard to master and NML has become the opposite 

Keep calm and buy survival pass 2 

WastelandMan said:

two more useless melee heroes on the way

nah, 1 melee and 1 ranged 

WastelandMan said:

n00b said:

WastelandMan said:

two more useless melee heroes on the way

nah, 1 melee and 1 ranged 

correct, this one ranged will be useless like melee 

more likely the ranged will be PVP oriented with LT that cripples, while melee might be focusing on making guaranteed non-body shot attacks for melee heroes/survivors
they might reuse those Beth's circles and make them better too, like cripple/root/damage/disarm walkers inside it (charge attacks can be used to extend then that circle)


not to make it OP, there can be chance of generating {X} smaller circles with chance {Y}%  inside that apply a certain effect to walkers

#1 get rid of body piles, they are actually easier for SMY, SPY, PMY than threat counter cuz all enemies come from few locations and are nice and piled together. Conversely, body piles are a nightmare for melee teams. Just get rid of them. 

#2 Create even more guild wars maps but all of them in the "theme" of the Dim Forrest - Double Trouble. Map. SFC or KTB in multiple directions and then you have to fight your way back to where you started.

#3 Have Spawn counter be long 5+ rounds and start with 1 or 0 enemies. This will help melee, and negligible effect on ranged. 

#4 When spawn count is full at +9 enemies, do this:
- Each additional threat triggers minus - 1 round sooner that enemies arrive
- Each additional threat triggers +2 level stronger enemies will arrive
- Each additional threat increases chances special walkers will arrive. 

I can do more, but start here ☝️

I have one perhaps more simple suggestion

Basically there are 6 useful heroes in the game now: Sasha Mercer Princess Yumiko Ezekiel and GCarol.

The problem is not Mercer, the problem is when you put SPY or SMY together and the game becomes quite easy especially now we have all the new weapons and armors.

So simple solution would be to give just 3 extra VP for not using any of those 6, 2 extra VP for using only 1 of the 6, and 1 extra VP for using only 2 out of those 6.

So for example if you do Sasha Mercer and any other assault that is not Princess, you get 1 extra VP. For a set of island, that will worth 20 VP. Mercer and 2 other assaults that is not Princess, that will worth 40 VP. You don't use any of those 6 - that will worth 60 VP per island. Obviously you also run the risk of redgassing, so, you just hope the gamble will worth it.

GW season is over, and the winning guild got max score from all their battles. Not a single red gas used, not to mention losing a sword completely. And that was playing the most difficult missions every day.

We desperately need changes to GW for next season!

DonTwd said:

haha, while you go 2-5 missions Ezekiel, Eugene, S.Rick and throwing tools and killing 4 strong walkers for half an hour ...    I will score 1036 points in 1 hours using SMY without gold and tools. there is no worthy competition SMY!  That is the problem.  It makes absolutely no sense to play with other lineups, like riding a wheelchair when there is a Ferrari ...

You're a rockstar! Getting an autograph is definitely on my bucket list!

DonTwd said:

Mercer is too unbalanced.  This hero completely destroyed the interest in the guild war.  Now all enemies die in 1-2 turns. 

 New maps after the update brought freshness, but also passed without effort with the help of an unbalanced Mercer.  This hero broke the balance of the game too much.

  You should have done it in the warrior class, melees need a hero like that, but gun teams don't.  

The game is getting more and more boring... Or make sure that only melee heroes can go to some guild war islands. 

 And in challenge Mercer kills everything like a nuclear weapon, it's a pity that this hero is not a warrior.

Watch the Origins II update video 😉

Burmeliinis said:

ATLAS-Z said:

Ps if you think the game is too one dimensional these days here's a good idea for you.

Put some time into making suggestions on how to improve melee and other heroes you'd like to see. (like many of us do already). 

HELP make other things in the game great, rather than complaining about the things that are already great.

And definitely don't make me use shit-garbage teams cuz you're bored with Mercer. 

When guilds that are barely in the top 100 in guild wars do max points (examples: RO Addicted, place #78 at the moment and Bagofhammers, place #84), it is a fact that GW is simply far too easy. 

Making other heroes better will not solve this problem, it will make it even worse.

Making the maps harder or introducing harder walkers will further solidify SMY as the only possible choice of team.

As I see it the only solution is to do an expert mode, with limited amount of heroes, giving more points. Then you can still use SMY if you want, but at cost of VP. 

This would bring back some of the good old days of GW, where you had to analyze the hard missions and think if they look managable, try to understand what your opponent is doing, and to take some risk. Try a hard mission with a non-optimal team and take the win if you succeed, or lose if you fail. 

PS. I am also a bit surprised that you seem to suggest that I only complain and don't do things to make this game great

There is no need to make one-sided offers that are beneficial only to top guilds and players who have upgraded their base and their heroes to the maximum. What you are suggesting will simply delimit the field of action of the top guilds and everyone else. Yes, due to the fact that players who have been playing for a long time have upgraded more heroes, there are more necessary weapons and armor and there are top badges. Roughly speaking, you propose to close the entrance to the guild war to beginners and everyone who is not top. Just by increasing the "entry threshold". Due to the fact that they do not have upgraded heroes, equipment and badges, they will not be able, even theoretically, to gain the maximum. There are a huge number of guilds in the game that are not equipped in top gear, and play tactics when strong guild players pass cards with zombies, and those who are weaker kill looters. You only look from the position of "I'm bored, I've upgraded everything, let's add complexity." Well, make yourself a challenge, go through the 19th and 20th islands with the composition of the Governor, Meggie Hunter and Merle. If you have a desire to suffer and spend your nerves, strength and consumables (grenades, first aid kits, flares), do not think that the others also agree to this.

Hi every one ! 
i just add my own idea
maybe should it be fun if specials walkers appear when threat grows
With new possibility in melee i start playing with it on last gw on island 12 and i realy appreciated. 
you have a menace of 4 at the beginning. With melee it won't grow and can get down. 
for exemple after 5 a tank appear/ 6 and 7 make 2 fast Walkers arriving ... it would make the game more exciting even with mercer because of the unknow... 

For the moment using SMY in secteur 20 is boring

With all the things having changed in the game, there's already a variery of teams that you could safely use on island 20. People just don't do it because we are so used to play with SMY, and in the current meta you can't really use that team elsewhere than in GW & Distance. 

So I still think it would be a good and fairly easy change to add a new column of maps, where only a random selection of heroes would be allowed. These maps would then give 35x the VP.




Just kidding, maybe add 15% to the score?

DonTwd said:

Mercer is too unbalanced.  This hero completely destroyed the interest in the guild war.  Now all enemies die in 1-2 turns. 

 New maps after the update brought freshness, but also passed without effort with the help of an unbalanced Mercer.  This hero broke the balance of the game too much.

  You should have done it in the warrior class, melees need a hero like that, but gun teams don't.  

The game is getting more and more boring... Or make sure that only melee heroes can go to some guild war islands. 

 And in challenge Mercer kills everything like a nuclear weapon, it's a pity that this hero is not a warrior.

If you've out-whaled almost all other whales or out-ground most of the other hardcore grinders, that's your exceptional progress, and it certainly doesn't represent the community at large. Not everyone, not even most NML players have unlocked Mercer yet, let alone reaching Level 9 or 10 of all his traits to see that ... "now all enemies die in 1-2 turns." Not to mention that on top of exceptionally high trait levels, it also takes some skill, experience, and the best badges and weapons to use Mercer that effectively and actually kill all enemies in 1-2 turns! If someone was looking for "easy," they'd probably use Princess instead and have significantly more "chill" runs with everything perma-stunned and dead after a few turns, so despite it taking more turns with Princess, it would be easier with her than Mercer.

If you've reached the level of Guild Wars, or Challenge mode, being "boring easy" for you with Mercer, I'm not sure what to say to that really beyond that you have that exceptional progress that I mentioned in the beginning, but you're probably better off intentionally stopping playing with Mercer and adding variety to your own game activity by strategically switching to melee. I understand that there is -- or was -- some shortage in equally efficient melee heroes, but efficiency is obviously not what you're looking for if you're complaining about Mercer making part of the game "boring easy" for you, which is just another way of saying that he's making progress in that part of the game super efficient. Some people like me will like that, especially those who enjoy ranged gameplay; others won't, like yourself. To you, it may be boring easy; to me, it would be ultra-efficient, and that would be a lot of fun. For example, I enjoy high-damage and ranged classes in PC games, so I'd very much enjoy melting enemies with Mercer.

Moreover, things are certainly changing for melee, and Next Games is trying to come up with new melee ideas to see what clicks with the community and what we can come up with. The company is making this obvious with the design of Beth, for example, even if that didn't click, and more recently, with the design and release of Hershel and now Tyreese. And it is up to players like yourself who have grown bored of heroes like Mercer or teams like SPY/SMY to try to come up with a new melee meta by creatively experimenting and mixing those new heroes.

Asking for highly used and favorite heroes to be nerfed because you out-whaled or out-ground 99% of the community on those heroes, though, is definitely not a viable solution; it will actually anger the vast majority of those who have loved and put so many resources and time into those heroes. And if you're asking for a fully decked up hero with Level-8 to 10 traits to be nerfed, my guess is that this came fairly easy for you, and you've out-whaled most others to reach that level on the said hero, rather than out-grinding anyone to reach that level of power and efficiency on the hero finally.

Burmeliinis said:

I guess we can't avoid the simple fact that this game is becoming old. People that have played it actively for a few years or even since the start will now have pretty much everything maxed and all key heroes at 3-5 pink stars, AND know how to use them. NG is doing its best to keep these loyal players, but it's becoming harder and harder. 

I know right. I didn't even make much effort to promote Carol and yet ☝️

Don't look at Mercer lol

ATLAS-Z said:

Burmeliinis said:

I guess we can't avoid the simple fact that this game is becoming old. People that have played it actively for a few years or even since the start will now have pretty much everything maxed and all key heroes at 3-5 pink stars, AND know how to use them. NG is doing its best to keep these loyal players, but it's becoming harder and harder. 

I know right. I didn't even make much effort to promote Carol and yet ☝️

Don't look at Mercer lol

Don't look at my screen time from the radio active 7 day booster lol