Official Origins II Update Thread

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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks @Fluxxx


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  • Novell
    Novell Member Posts: 249 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    I also like the x35 miltiplier in expert mode. Now i spent only 10 - 15min for 1 ticket, expect of 20 - 30min and get a higher score including using different teams which is very funny. Before x35 i always used SMY which was boring as hell.
    Thx NG! Good job!
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  • Gallifrey
    Gallifrey Member Posts: 14
    Another mistake from NG 
    *35 is too much.
    they should balance normal too by *2.
    look at all these scores it’s too much.
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  • Firekid
    Firekid Member Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Gallifrey don’t know what you mean? They look about the same as what people were getting with normal teams before. Except there were only 3-4 people doing it.. 
    Why not try using a different team for a change and go for expert and join them at the top. 
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  • ShadowWalker
    ShadowWalker Member Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I completely agree with @Gallifrey, ×35 is too much and doesn't make sense.

    30 is a nice round even number and doesn't give me OCD  ;)

    On a serious note, I think I just would've preferred separate leaderboards, but perhaps that isn't practical. Another option could've been +50 support tokens for each skull in your final score. 
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  • Firekid
    Firekid Member Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also would have preferred separate leaderboards and have been campaigning for it for ages as no matter what they do there will be a normie Vs expert debate when it comes to that leaderboard. 
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    I agree with @Firekid and I've also been an advocate for separate leaderboards since @JayZ first brought it up ages ago.

    This move makes me think it's not so easy to manage. And it's a decent compromise if not exactly perfect.

    But it leads my mind to wonder why... Perhaps because one player could end up on both leaderboards? Which creates paradox problems to potentially fracture the multiverse? (also double rewards) 😳



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  • MrLucky
    MrLucky Member Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrLucky said:
    Still didn't rework the face of the game. SMH.
    HAHAHA! I guess they did rework the face of the game!    :D 
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  • MrLucky
    MrLucky Member Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FORGET WHAT DARYL TAUGHT YOU!   :disappointed:
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  • Chimera
    Chimera Member Posts: 21
    ATLAS-Z said:
    I agree with @Firekid and I've also been an advocate for separate leaderboards since @JayZ first brought it up ages ago.

    This move makes me think it's not so easy to manage. And it's a decent compromise if not exactly perfect.

    But it leads my mind to wonder why... Perhaps because one player could end up on both leaderboards
    Good points, but as far as I'm concerned, separate leaderboards is the only way to fix the DUMPSTER FIRE that has been caused by 35x rewards on Extra mode.

    NOW it's flat out impossible to get anywhere CLOSE to leaderboards if one looks at the list of Expert heroes and says 'I don't like any of those teams - and I LIKE seeing many, many rounds of rewards - I think I'll do regular mode this week'

    Did they just listen to ONE piece of feedback, without thinking through consequences?

    Net Feedback:
    1. NG -- I HATE 35X. WITH A PASSION
    2. NG -- You've Broken Balance Between Normal & Expert Modes. Either FIX balance or SEPARATE the modes.



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  • Virtus
    Virtus Member Posts: 59 ✭✭✭
    How about an Easter Egg if you use the "Greene Team" - all 3 family members (Maggie, Beth, Hershel) on a mission? Maybe double the value of their LTs or give them status immunity?  That would be cool.
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  • Krabbator
    Krabbator Member Posts: 67 ✭✭✭
    Lexia said:
    Thank you @Novell!

    - Hershel LT and the charge point % - it's the status effect not the LT per se, and you can see that info later on in the info for the status effect Weakened
    - Weakening values - both changeable values, but will show in-game with the exact info :smile:
    Please tell me where you can read the full list of all the changes in the update? Interested in all the new weapons added to the black market.
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chimera said:
    ATLAS-Z said:
    I agree with @Firekid and I've also been an advocate for separate leaderboards since @JayZ first brought it up ages ago.

    This move makes me think it's not so easy to manage. And it's a decent compromise if not exactly perfect.

    But it leads my mind to wonder why... Perhaps because one player could end up on both leaderboards
    Good points, but as far as I'm concerned, separate leaderboards is the only way to fix the DUMPSTER FIRE that has been caused by 35x rewards on Extra mode.

    NOW it's flat out impossible to get anywhere CLOSE to leaderboards if one looks at the list of Expert heroes and says 'I don't like any of those teams - and I LIKE seeing many, many rounds of rewards - I think I'll do regular mode this week'

    Did they just listen to ONE piece of feedback, without thinking through consequences?

    Net Feedback:
    1. NG -- I HATE 35X. WITH A PASSION
    2. NG -- You've Broken Balance Between Normal & Expert Modes. Either FIX balance or SEPARATE the modes.




    I could easily get in the top 1% using NO HEROES.

    If a player wants to score higher with Heroes then invest in More Heroes and get better using them .

    Your point, as I see it, is moot. 


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  • WellyLuga
    WellyLuga Member Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Leave it alone I'm in the top 100 for the first time in God knows how long and I feel like I earned it by playing well with what would normally be a bad team :lol:

    No more SMY, infinite tools and 3 day long missions to cheese your way to the top. Happy days.
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  • BenjaminT
    BenjaminT Member Posts: 639 ✭✭✭✭
    I’ve gone from regularly finishing in the top 2% to falling out of the top 10%. My council isn’t high enough for expert mode. I only have a handful of rerolled/upgraded heroes, quite a few are still locked.

    Everything about the change appears to be bad news for me but there’s no way I can describe any of it as unfair. I’ve watched videos of elite players doing awesome things with weak heroes, I cannot agree with anyone wanting to balance experts with normals. It’s no longer competitive that way
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  • Phalanx44
    Phalanx44 Member Posts: 350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Might have missed it somewhere, but has it been officially stated anywhere how we will acquire Tyrese tokens? Herschel tokens are up for grabs in the Origins II season missions (when the bugs are fixed), as well as the top reward for the season campaign... 

    Will Tyrese's tokens only be available through phone calls? Will they be a part of the next Season Pass reward path?
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  • Angelspit
    Angelspit Member Posts: 131 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, I had the same question. I was expecting the story missions to reward us with Tyrese tokens, and was surprised to see Hershel there as well. I remember that unlocking heroes through phone calls took forever.
    The next season pass will include a Michonne skin, so that rules out Tyrese as a reward I guess.
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  • Phalanx44
    Phalanx44 Member Posts: 350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From my past experience, i averaged 600 phones each on the "increased chance of X hero" (15 phones) calls to acquire Shane, Guardian Carol, and maybe Beth as well? Didnt wait an extra month for the x2 calls to come out. So, that should cut the amount down to 300 phones, if one is patient enough... i was not.

    (Also, i know Shane's 500 tokens were initially a campaign reward. That's probably how most ppl unlocked him. But i was on hiatus from the game at that time, and missed out on the top reward.)
  • Dresden
    Dresden Member Posts: 69 ✭✭✭
    Phalanx44 said:
    Might have missed it somewhere, but has it been officially stated anywhere how we will acquire Tyrese tokens? Herschel tokens are up for grabs in the Origins II season missions (when the bugs are fixed), as well as the top reward for the season campaign... 

    Will Tyrese's tokens only be available through phone calls? Will they be a part of the next Season Pass reward path?
    According to the Sneak Peak video, Tyreese tokens are supposed to be the reward for season missions. Perhaps they'll fix that when they address the other season mission bugs.
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    @Dresden maybe. But for folks who saw there was a problem and said "DAMN THE TORPEDOS, FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!" they should keep their Herschel tokens and no free Tyreese tokens.

    When you notice a problem, stop, don't keep pushing on like a blind idiot.

    Just my opinion. 


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  • Dresden
    Dresden Member Posts: 69 ✭✭✭
    @ATLAS-Z I agree. I thought it seemed off but I had zero issues this morning until trial 1. So I stopped, finished waking up, realized I wasn't going crazy and went into hurry up and wait mode. I can wait until they get it sorted. No rush to open new toons until you Strategy Masters decide if they're worth it.
    Also, kicking around the idea of Weaken on Scout Daryl. Drive-by weakening. Thoughts?
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dresden said:
    Also, kicking around the idea of Weaken on Scout Daryl. Drive-by weakening. Thoughts?
    I'm not sure bro. I've considered swapping weakening for Perseverance but haven't done it yet. Dunno


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  • BenjaminT
    BenjaminT Member Posts: 639 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    I rerolled Ruthless for Weaken on HD, now he’s Lucky, Strong, Perseverance, Weaken. Really missing Ruthless now but would give up Perseverance or Strong before giving up Weaken. Can’t decide which though. Prowl makes HD the best scout for Weaken, I reckon.

    Currently my thinking is definitely Weaken over Perseverance. The difficult bit is whether I should keep Perseverance 
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  • liorsalman
    liorsalman Member Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭
    I rerolled Ruthless for Weaken on HD, now he’s Lucky, Strong, Perseverance, Weaken. Really missing Ruthless now but would give up Perseverance or Strong before giving up Weaken. Can’t decide which though. Prowl makes HD the best scout for Weaken, I reckon.

    Currently my thinking is definitely Weaken over Perseverance. The difficult bit is whether I should keep Perseverance 
    You should keep ruthless and strong on HD pretty important I think lucky or perseverance..
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  • FuriousMoldovan
    FuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For HD I'm leaning more towards:
    Strong, Ruthless, Lucky, Weakening.

    He doesn't need to be charged every single turn with Psv but still needs dmg and Lucky to boost Wkn and crit chances ;)
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  • BenjaminT
    BenjaminT Member Posts: 639 ✭✭✭✭
    For HD I'm leaning more towards:
    Strong, Ruthless, Lucky, Weakening.

    He doesn't need to be charged every single turn with Psv but still needs dmg and Lucky to boost Wkn and crit chances ;)

    Me too. I think I got a bit drunk on Weaken and kept rerolling everyone until I ran out of tokens. Next chance I get I’ll be rerolling Perseverance back to Ruthless
  • avelardez
    avelardez Member Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    New style 
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  • Superhero
    Superhero Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Fluxxx
     
    Found a bug...


  • m4s
    m4s Member Posts: 681 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had the same
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