Mismatch swords - GW season closed as of 27th of July 9AM UTC

m4s
m4s Member Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2022 in Bug Reports
Some guilds and players reported mismatch swords

@Lexia
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  • Lexia
    Lexia Member Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Currently looking into it :smile:

    Mostly it seems to be a visual bug, with 1 "extra" attack showing on the battle result screen, but player is still not able to do any more missions. We might already have found the cause for it.

    Some players have still stated to have some extra attacks available after doing 18 already, and able to start a new mission - we are still looking into this, so potential more information is welcomed 
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  • liorsalman
    liorsalman Member Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    @Lexia not me (-:
    m4sStalker20
  • FOE
    FOE Member Posts: 34 ✭✭✭
    Lexia said:
    Currently looking into it :smile:

    Mostly it seems to be a visual bug, with 1 "extra" attack showing on the battle result screen, but player is still not able to do any more missions. We might already have found the cause for it.

    Some players have still stated to have some extra attacks available after doing 18 already, and able to start a new mission - we are still looking into this, so potential more information is welcomed 
    Hello Lexia,

    We have the same problems.



    LG, Erwin
  • WastelandMan
    WastelandMan Member Posts: 187 ✭✭✭
    don't be embarrassed, cancel this fight and move the start of the season to next Monday
    @Fluxxx
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  • m4s
    m4s Member Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Booooooom

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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The extra swords bug (not the mismatch but real extra swords) seems extremely common so I fully agree that this week’s war should be cancelled.
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  • Racer
    Racer Member Posts: 9
    First day of GW. Good job... Bug wars continues. 🪲🪲🪲😭🤣😂. Maybe postpone it till after the summer, so you can test stuff before releasing it. 
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  • n00b
    n00b Member Posts: 79
    At least forum shows some signs of life today, every cloud has a silver lining
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  • Cronus
    Cronus Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    m4s said:
    Booooooom

    Looks like a new personal best!
  • Stalker20
    Stalker20 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't agree with cancelling it, I didn't get any extra swords, neither did my guildmates. NG can adjust those accounts who scored extra, that's fairer. 
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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Lexia not me (-:

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  • m4s
    m4s Member Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ka-boom
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  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar.... Just kidding.

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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's already 6 teams on the leaderboard with more than max possible points. A team of 10 can score a maximum of 14,638 points, and the one at the top of the board already has 15,324 :facepalm:
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  • tallinie
    tallinie Member Posts: 402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The extra swords bug (not the mismatch but real extra swords) seems extremely common so I fully agree that this week’s war should be cancelled.
    I seem to have had extra sword as well. After I used all swords and checked scoreboard, my score was showing up a bit higher than is possible with 18 swords.
  • xeniia
    xeniia Member Posts: 67
    Stalker20 said:
    I don't agree with cancelling it, I didn't get any extra swords, neither did my guildmates. NG can adjust those accounts who scored extra, that's fairer. 

    There is obviously a bug that is actively exploited by some teams. Adjusting scores will not help, it need to be fixed before we can proceed with wars, otherwise it's just ridiculous. 
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  • derex
    derex Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2022
    My guild is not playing today, but what is reported in other forums:
    Red gas still gives full points.
    Sword lost is back.
    @Lexia
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  • Shezza10
    Shezza10 Member Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    Very unimpressed with all this and even more unimpressed with the response from NG.
    All integrity and sportmanship out the window, all hope for a competitive guild war season gone on day one.
    Absolute shambles! You need to sort this out and fast @Lexia@Fluxxx
    It’s fantastic to see some guilds only playing genuine attacks and stopping at max scores. Bravo to you guys.
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  • Yikes
    Yikes Member Posts: 187 ✭✭✭✭
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Right now, the dilema is that if they punish guilds that took advantage of the extra attacks, then it can unfair for those that did not count their attacks and just spent what they had (honest mistake?)  But, if they do nothing, then teams that are trying to do the right thing are the ones at a disadvantage in terms of RP and VP.  They can't simply wipe away the RP and VP that have already been earned because players have used tools and some may have spent their RP in the GW shop.

    It'll be interesting to see what the resolution will be.  Rankings based on today's scores are going to be garbage unless there's some kind of fix.


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  • Shezza10
    Shezza10 Member Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    If guilds going for max score don’t know what the max score is by now then I would be very surprised, there will definitely be some ‘honest mistakes’ but not from the potential max guilds.
    I agree the solution to this will be very difficult to find, maybe more red gas compensation? 🤷‍♂️
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  • Burmeliinis
    Burmeliinis Member Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only solution is to completely cancel this week’s war and give some token compensation to everyone who played today (like 100 gold) and anyone who used much more need to make a ticket.

    Clearly a lot of guilds are going wild and exploit this as much as they can.
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  • Paste
    Paste Member Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2022
    Yikes said:
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Don't put this on the players. It's NG's fault. Although it's honorable that some guilds have chosen not to use extra swords, that doesn't mean the other guilds are all intentionally cheating (like you said). There's a count on how many swords you have in the game, just like there's a count on gas, red gas, tools, tomatoes etc. It's not the players job to double check these. And it's not well spent time for NG to chase after people either, instead of fixing bugs.
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  • Yikes
    Yikes Member Posts: 187 ✭✭✭✭
    Paste said:
    Yikes said:
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Don't put this on the players. It's NG's fault. Although it's honorable that some guilds have chosen not to use extra swords, that doesn't mean the other guilds are all intentionally cheating (like you said). There's a count on how many swords you have in the game, just like there's a count on gas, red gas, tools, tomatoes etc. It's not the players job to double check these. And it's not well spent time for NG to chase after people either, instead of fixing bugs.
    Agree.  This is why I said there are likely some honest mistakes and it's unfair to punish those who don't really count swords.  I'm sure NG can also run queries to see which teams have scores above the maximum and then look at logs to see which players exit the game after starting a mission to get extra swords (as reported above).  That is clearly an exploit especially if multiple members on the team do it or if a player does it more than once.  Now, what they're going to do about it is a different issue.
    Stalker20
  • ADPaq
    ADPaq Member Posts: 436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well said @Paste. This is solely on NG and no player should be penalised for NG's mistake in not deducting used attacks.

    Suspend GW until fixed, compensate those who spent resources and restart this fiasco of a war once GW had been tested and works.
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  • echonap
    echonap Member Posts: 198 ✭✭✭
    My guild went over the max score but we definitely didn’t do it maliciously. I am the GW coordinator and I couldn’t figure out what was going on and why spent attacks didn’t match remaining attacks. I’m sure many went over max with no intention of cheating/exploiting.

    Fix the bug and reset all guilds to max VP that they could’ve earned so far but no need to take back RP. The player earned it. That’s my vote.

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  • JGUY
    JGUY Member Posts: 17
    Isn't it nice when a company releases a bug filled update then go on vacation. And year after year they do the same thing. And no one is around to answer our questions. 
    NG, you need to postpone Guild Wars until you can straighten out the new bugs. Need I say more!
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  • ADPaq
    ADPaq Member Posts: 436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the guild we're up against today and they're still going 🤣😂


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  • Killdozer187_
    Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They better not suspend anything if my team uses resources to play. Just give every guild affected the 1.5 multiplier until you figure it out. 
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