Scout Weapon Idea: Slingshot

BenjaminT said:

I did wonder about Prowl - sounds to me like a very good opportunity for some lovely new bugs 

maybe whenever Daryl runs passed a walker he could shoot himself

BenjaminT said:

roganrushrich said:

I think it would be better given for shooters. It's pretty strange in my opinion that scouts have a shooting weapon, exept bayonet muscet that shoots only if it's charged. Making new shooters from scouts it means to deprive this class of heroes of their individuality. Besides, I have a question about how it will work on Deryl with his LT. If he shoots just by running past zombies, then this is generally nonsense. Also, the slingshot shoots only at one target, and therefore I think it's strange to make an analog of an underwater gun out of it judging by the series. This idea is good, but but ill - conceived as it seems to me.

On a more measured note I think there’s a few things to bear in mind. Regarding the question of how melee can catch up with ranged the shooter/scout comparison is a good one. High level gameplay is about crowd control, not about killing, and scouts/shooters are killers. But the higher levels of the game are against enemies too powerful to outmuscle. When we talk about shooters in high level gameplay really what we mean is Yumiko, and the only reason she’s in the conversation is her LT.

I’m not sure giving scouts some range helps out here either, but I hope the next big step forward for them is a weapon, rather than a new scout hero with Firing Squad levels of power. I’d hate to see SRick, HD and Beth all benched for some new scout megastar in the same way Aaron, Merle and OG Rick never get a look in 

BenjaminT said:

roganrushrich said:

BenjaminT said:

roganrushrich said:

I think it would be better given for shooters. It's pretty strange in my opinion that scouts have a shooting weapon, exept bayonet muscet that shoots only if it's charged. Making new shooters from scouts it means to deprive this class of heroes of their individuality. Besides, I have a question about how it will work on Deryl with his LT. If he shoots just by running past zombies, then this is generally nonsense. Also, the slingshot shoots only at one target, and therefore I think it's strange to make an analog of an underwater gun out of it judging by the series. This idea is good, but but ill - conceived as it seems to me.

On a more measured note I think there’s a few things to bear in mind. Regarding the question of how melee can catch up with ranged the shooter/scout comparison is a good one. High level gameplay is about crowd control, not about killing, and scouts/shooters are killers. But the higher levels of the game are against enemies too powerful to outmuscle. When we talk about shooters in high level gameplay really what we mean is Yumiko, and the only reason she’s in the conversation is her LT.

I’m not sure giving scouts some range helps out here either, but I hope the next big step forward for them is a weapon, rather than a new scout hero with Firing Squad levels of power. I’d hate to see SRick, HD and Beth all benched for some new scout megastar in the same way Aaron, Merle and OG Rick never get a look in 

Aaron is one of the main heroes in series, so he still has a chance to be updated. Maybe new alt version or new LT for him like a shooter, who knows. Rick still has a chance to be upgraded too. He'll have his own series with Michonne and this is can be a reason to improve his LT. New weapon in fact won't change anything with shooters, because it won't make them useful without this specific weapon. It need to change the piercing mechanics and add skills that complement this ability and events that will enhance a certain class of heroes, both damage and chance of piercing. And it needs to change shooters LT's to make Yumiko an irreplaceable hero.😊

I think I must not have expressed my thoughts very well. I’m saying if there’s going to be a giant leap forward for the scout class, which I expect there will be at some point, then I hope it comes in the form of a new weapon rather than a new LT.

For the shooter class the giant leap forward was Yumiko’s LT, but all other shooters got left behind which seems a shame. I don’t think we need any more shooter weapons though, or anymore ranged weapons really. We’re spoiled for choice now. (Except maybe an Ornate Shotgun with Lucky/Piercing/Ensnare for Hershel. The old boy doesn’t really have a gun which suits him yet)