Champion Assault Rifle - Initial thoughts?

Just wanted to stimulate some early discussion in the community of the new upcoming weapon that we will work to in a few weeks being the CAR! 

Champion Assault Rifle - Lucky / Concussion / Piercing 
Special functionality - The CAR has a slightly narrower attack cone, but with longer range. Charge attack is a bonus attack that can be targeted anywhere on the within range. Deals additional damage.
Bonus Stun - A cone-shaped bonus attack that stuns and can be targeted anywhere on the ground

I've added some poll options! 

My personal view is that the charge attack being a bonus is definitely something to look and test - especially when coming with Yumiko for 3 hits per round. I guess my only hesitancy is that the charge target of Decimator/Obliterator is much more versatile / safe which would push it below the tier of them. I think it will be used and a good addition, however more of a situational piece as opposed to safe go to default weapon

Champion Assault Rifle - Initial thoughts? 34 votes

Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
17%
FirekidBurmeliinisDyAmondZXerBenjaminTSmiLeee_ 6 votes
A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
44%
GovernatorkmrTheCrabKnightmare65BigFellaSteveMudMoccasinladre5Stalker20SlizeechonapCarl_Tyreese999NovelldarkdestinationStefankingxVikachiu 15 votes
Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
38%
zeeblackeuchidTweetyBirdRiotZappaEngAamieAdzKyleAnjelosNatsuDarkBassreactorSkywithinGripleeIoSonoSempreNeganhdhdh 13 votes
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  • BenjaminT
    BenjaminT Member Posts: 639 ✭✭✭✭
    Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
    I might have misunderstood your write up but I thought it was a bit different to how you’ve described. Uncharged attack will be cone shaped. Charge attack with be an ‘on the ground’ dcm style attack, then a bonus attack after a charge attack will be an additional cone shaped attack.

    In the hands of a high level Mercer this will be crazy. The gun does what Yumiko does for Princess/Mercer, which means Yumiko might not be needed (in which case, hello Tyreese) or you could keep her and have an additional shot each turn.

    The traits are really strong too. Lucky means more MAA, more primed (which means even more MAA) and with the right leader more charge points. Concussion is obviously great and Piercing means Mercer kills much more easily
  • Governator
    Governator Member Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    It's OK, but the Lucky Decimator still rules with it's ability to reach around blind corners. Plus, the Piercing trait lessens its value with Sasha in the lead. I won't upgrade it when we get to the next Council level.
  • MudMoccasin
    MudMoccasin Member Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    Governor's Steyr AUG 2.0.... nothing more.
  • Novell
    Novell Member Posts: 249 ✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    I always see problems with metalheads when i read "A cone-shape attack". I prefer Decimator in GW.
    In challenge it will be a very good alternative to the Decimator.
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  • darkdestination
    darkdestination Member Posts: 17 ✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    @BenjaminT
    are you sure its ground based and with circle attack? i saw that gif and there was no circle in the charge attack visible, maybe iam wrong?
  • ZXer
    ZXer Member Posts: 269 ✭✭✭
    Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
    I don’t think it’s circle

    but then with this princess can go solo - meaning you can go princess Mercer on many maps
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  • BenjaminT
    BenjaminT Member Posts: 639 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2023
    Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
    ZXer said:
    I don’t think it’s circle

    but then with this princess can go solo - meaning you can go princess Mercer on many maps
    It’s ‘on the ground’, what shape do you think it’ll be? :D


    Edit: I just reread the SF, I think @darkdestination and @XZer are right. Sounds like it’s still cone shaped and can be targeted anywhere (like DCM) but still fires in straight line from the hero (like HazDozer). Still think it’ll be a game changer because it means Yumiko won’t be needed on a lot of maps (which is massive, Yumiko is the one constant in all the ranged mega teams - SPY, SMY, PMY), but maybe not quite the game breaker I first thought 
  • kmr
    kmr Member Posts: 163 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2023
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    Both attacks are cone shaped. Check here at 1:00 : https://youtu.be/KbqrcHrsAyc?t=61
  • IoSonoSempreNegan
    IoSonoSempreNegan Member Posts: 76 ✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    I think they have run out of ideas for a new weapon.
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  • kmr
    kmr Member Posts: 163 ✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    It will be a powerful weapon for Princess, give her the opportunity getting charged every rounds without Yumiko.
    Opens up many other team combination in ch beside Sh/Princess/Yumi
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kmr said:
    It will be a powerful weapon for Princess, give her the opportunity getting charged every rounds without Yumiko.
    Opens up many other team combination in ch beside Sh/Princess/Yumi

    ☝️ This is the advantage. I'm not a huge fan of the area of effect, but a skilled player could work with it. 


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  • Griplee
    Griplee Member Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2023
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup

    I'm sure a lot of people would of wanted  this to of been RaR
  • Firekid
    Firekid Member Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
    I don’t think it’ll be a game changer but it’s the most fitting option for me as I never use decimators anymore so I think it’s a great weapon with a different functionality which will get a good run out on quite a few maps. 
  • euchid
    euchid Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    Narrow cone shaped, lucky and piercing assault rifle that deals additional damage.
  • zeeblack
    zeeblack Member Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    Hmmm, am still a far way from unlocking it. Lets hope its a game changer

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  • Carl_Tyreese999
    Carl_Tyreese999 Member Posts: 145 ✭✭✭
    A Good option but likely will be prioritised by the above weapons in most cases
    They had the perfect opportunity to give us the commonwealth rifle but nope, *insert random assault weapon again*
  • DyAmond
    DyAmond Member Posts: 101 ✭✭✭
    Game changer that will be up there as a primary option with Decimator/Obliterator
    As someone who loves challenges i love the concept of a 2 Attack Assault wep

    I dont care metal heads i always take rid of them with any weapon on any 50+ Mission 
  • AdzKyle
    AdzKyle Member Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    Have it levelled up and I think it’s crap. Don’t think I will be using it when I have a Decimator, RAR and recently acquired DAR(don’t use much)
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Game Changer - but not in the way you think

    With this weapon, Princess can thrive on teams without Yumiko support.

    SAYS IT ALL. PIEROD, THE END

    (Have a nice day) 


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  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2023
    https://youtu.be/_4iGow5icm0

    Watch Princess Recharge herself in the same turn without any Yumiko on team. 

    @AdzKyle tell me how that's not EFFING amazing? ✌️🤣


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  • AdzKyle
    AdzKyle Member Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    ATLAS-Z said:
    https://youtu.be/_4iGow5icm0

    Watch Princess Recharge herself in the same turn without any Yumiko on team. 

    @AdzKyle tell me how that's not EFFING amazing? ✌️🤣
    Well….that’s a game changer!!  :D
    I shall need to give it another go. Only had a fleeting shot of it. 
  • AdzKyle
    AdzKyle Member Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    I had tried it on challenge. Couldn’t get her charged without Sasha and Yumiko to enable me to test that. 
  • Dr_Krieg
    Dr_Krieg Member Posts: 17
    Granted this is my first decent assault weapon but I agree with Atlas, using with Princess is pretty snazzy. Crazy range too.
  • RiotZappa
    RiotZappa Member Posts: 188 ✭✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    I was wrong, it's pretty ace on big open maps.
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AdzKyle said:
    I had tried it on challenge. Couldn’t get her charged without Sasha and Yumiko to enable me to test that. 

    You'll need someone on board who can inflict status (Morningstar, bruiser, Cripple, etc). Princess only charges herself if she hits an enemy with status. 


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  • AdzKyle
    AdzKyle Member Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
    Meh weapon with no significant benefit or changes to the class/setup
    ATLAS-Z said:
    AdzKyle said:
    I had tried it on challenge. Couldn’t get her charged without Sasha and Yumiko to enable me to test that. 

    You'll need someone on board who can inflict status (Morningstar, bruiser, Cripple, etc). Princess only charges herself if she hits an enemy with status. 
    Yeah just had her continually charge herself. I will admit it. I got that one wrong. Haha. 
  • liorsalman
    liorsalman Member Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice weapon not a game changer 
    https://youtu.be/FNOsuvck5Cs
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2023
    Nice weapon not a game changer 
    https://youtu.be/FNOsuvck5Cs

    @liorsalman you're not using it with optimal team. It's a princess weapon. (specifically without needing Yumiko) 

    https://youtu.be/g6_bQNyHG7g

    https://youtu.be/7rkEtNBo1AA


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  • liorsalman
    liorsalman Member Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭
    ATLAS-Z said:
    Nice weapon not a game changer 
    https://youtu.be/FNOsuvck5Cs

    @liorsalman you're not using it with optimal team. It's a princess weapon. (specifically without needing Yumiko) 

    https://youtu.be/g6_bQNyHG7g
    I will check it out 
    but piercing helps Mercer with SS so I wanted to check it..
  • ATLAS-Z
    ATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @liorsalman yeah I get it. As usual, campaign weapons aren't released with ideal traits.

    If season pass included one with widespread, +Concussion, Cripple, Ensnare, etc etc that would be mind blowing awesome. But this free one still pretty cool. Not an "all the time" weapon, like some others, but still a very useful tool. 


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